The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby Kapol » 09 Jan 2017, 14:01

Copter was ultra-efficient and ubiquitous, which made it a much more likely hit for a banning. Reflector Mage is more surprising. But others have talked about how it'd help push U/W to be the dominant archetype with Copter and Emrakul gone. So it does make sense.

The timing is the weird part for me. But WotC was kind of forced to do it before the new answers had a chance to play out. Otherwise you run into the situation where each new release has no bannings so they can allow answers to muddy the water. Bannings being with each new release was likely a poor idea to be honest. Though they've also fixed that by giving a new B&R list update halfway through the season.
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby fantôme » 10 Jan 2017, 01:46

I don't follow Modern, so couldn't comment on Probe & Troll, but am very surprised at all three Standard bans.

Copter was busted, but there were plenty of ways to deal with it, and more excellent answers coming in AER. It being ubiquitous is the only problem I see with it, but with control & combo looking stronger in the new set - I don't believe that problem would have persisted.

Emrakul was not impossible to beat when she came out, just that she came out too quickly. Treat Aetherworks Marvel as a combo deck, and there were a reasonable number of sideboard options to deal with it - as with any other combo.

Reflector Mage makes the least sense. Copter was more important to u/w flash than Emrakul was to b/g delirium, and any shift in the meta would not last past AER release anyway. But more to the point, Mage was not at all the most guilty in making u/w flash so good.

I personally didn't run any of them, but banning three cards from Standard really hugely sucks for (especially newer) players who have invested in these cards.
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby Booster » 11 Jan 2017, 04:58

I think the problem with Emrakul is that if she does come down, you need to have the answer exactly second from the top of your deck or you just lose. At last FNM she came down when I had a stasis snare in hand, and then on my stolen turn OP drew a second one, so they got used on my creatures, and there was just nothing I could do.
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby fantôme » 11 Jan 2017, 08:16

Don't forget Stasis Snare has flash, you can exile Emrakul before the end of the turn on which she was cast. But having protection from instants, you make a very valid point for every other removal spell in the format.
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby square1 » 12 Jan 2017, 07:01

"When Stasis Snare enters the battlefield, exile target creature an opponent controls until Stasis Snare leaves the battlefield."

Opponent can't target your creatures with your Stasis Snare
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby phlip » 29 Jan 2017, 02:48

So, I was watching the AER crack-a-case stream VOD, and realised there was something of an opportunity there...

Cause, obviously you can tell the distribution of the normal cards in boosters. And we know how often you get a foil (1 in 67 cards, it's in the fine print on the boosters). But I've never been able to find out the distribution within the foil cards... because there's no technical reason why it would have to be any particular arrangement... the ratio of rares to mythics would have to be the same as for non-foil cards, since they're on the same sheet, but other than that, it's just down to how many of each sheet they print. I've typically guessed it's the same ratio as the normal cards... 10 commons to 3 uncommons to 1 rare/mythic, but that's just a guess, with nothing to back it up.

But then LRR cracked open a case, and James helpfully gathered all the foils and showed them off to the chat, so I was able to get a count.

So, from a case, they open 6*36*15=3240 cards, from which you'd expect to get 3240/67≈48 foils... they actually opened 46, which is slightly below average but definitely well within the bounds of chance.

But then, those 46 foils are: 4 basic land, 22 commons, 13 uncommons, 7 rares. Which is definitely not even close to a 1:10:3:1 ratio. Closer to 1:5:3:2, but it's not really have enough data to nail it down. But definitly suggests that the foil distribution is noticably more rare-heavy than non-foils. Which matches up with what I'm seeing online... the 1:10:3:1 ratio would suggest a foil mythic on average once every ~2.4 cases, but I've seen shop-owners online saying they're closer to average 1 per case.

I'd love to have more data, though... I know there's a number of people who make crack-a-box videos on the youtubes... is there anyone here who follows that sort of thing that can make recommendations? Ideally ones that give a rundown of all the foils opened at the end, like James did, for ease of data-collection...
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby Dredrik » 02 Feb 2017, 18:20

Does anyone have a decklist of Bens deck from the most recent TTC? (TTC 159)
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby virre » 03 Feb 2017, 04:14

Dredrik wrote:Does anyone have a decklist of Bens deck from the most recent TTC? (TTC 159)


Somebody linked it in the youtube comments
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/aristocrats-wip/
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby korvys » 03 Feb 2017, 13:53

Got interested in MTG card alters due to TTC talking about the Gravedigger with the coffee mug, and decided to give it a go:
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby phlip » 19 Feb 2017, 02:30

So, they cracked an Unhinged pack to pad time on LRRMtG this week, and it reminded me of the lightly-curated Unhinged/Unglued set-cube I built a while back, and I figured people might be interested to see it, so I took the list and posted it online.

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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby Lycodrake » 19 Feb 2017, 05:38

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Saw this earlier on a slide, but here's the actual "full art" of an Amonkhet creature. Sobek- or Ammut/Ammit-based dragon and/or god perhaps? Super hyped just because of this art.

The Trials are connected to "Solidarity, Knowledge, Strength, Ambition and Zeal". Oddly not in WUBRG order, if we take them as "W, U, G, B, and R". Perhaps we really will see another shard-colored block/plane?

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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby scarbble » 25 Feb 2017, 20:39

I am mildly excite about amonkhet, but for me it will be really hard to beat kaladesh block. The whole inventor theme really was my jam in so many ways.
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Re: The General Magic: The Gathering Thread

Postby chetoos » 25 Mar 2017, 17:23

I think someone should compile a list of all of the 13s on cards in Shadows over innistrad block, from the direct 13s (triskaidekaphobia, emerakul) to the implicit ones (goldnight castigator, hanweir, the writhing township)
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