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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 28 Feb 2014, 04:59

I had a realisation.

As a Homosexual Male, a Bisexual Male, or any Male that is physically attracted to Men or some men, there is an advantage as a Video Game Player.

Roleplaying Games, or Games where you can Customise your character's appearance.

You're able to play a character that you can relate to physically and also find attractive.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby goatprince » 09 Mar 2014, 02:04

Merrymaker_Mortalis wrote:I had a realisation.

As a Homosexual Male, a Bisexual Male, or any Male that is physically attracted to Men or some men, there is an advantage as a Video Game Player.

Roleplaying Games, or Games where you can Customise your character's appearance.

You're able to play a character that you can relate to physically and also find attractive.


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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby cuddlyblade » 09 Mar 2014, 11:38

Merrymaker_Mortalis wrote:I had a realisation.
You're able to play a character that you can relate to physically and also find attractive.


That really really depends on how much adjusting you can really do and what you find physically attractive. To be honest there are very few video games in which I've been able to create or customize a male characters appearance that has allowed me to make somebody I was particularly attracted too.

Can't say that I'm hugely interested in the thin, six packed and muscled characters which seem to be the only options that most games offer. Balthier above being a good example of the characters I don't particularly find attractive but seem to be the only kind I can make.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Deedles » 09 Mar 2014, 18:32

I'm neither lesbian or bisexual, but I can still do that in RPGs with any female character I create because I have certain female traits that I find attractive. Possibly because I'm bi-amorous.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Avistew » 09 Mar 2014, 21:23

And for the flipside, I'm female but find it very easy to identify with male characters, possibly because I'm used to it since often that's the only thing you can play. And I can be attracted to them, although rarely the ones you customize, for reasons stated above.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Deedles » 09 Mar 2014, 21:35

Yeah, I'm into buffer guys, so I tend to have issues with creating male characters I find attractive in a lot of character creators.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby cuddlyblade » 09 Mar 2014, 23:00

I tend to play female or dwarf characters when the option is available. Female because it's usually to make something that is at least somewhat attractive and dwarves because they tend to be the closest to something I find attractive and let's be honest who doesn't love a good beard. ;)
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby goatprince » 12 Mar 2014, 02:14

Re: the last few posts, i personally am thin and white, so obviously it's easier for me to project myself into most characters out there (and i do feel kind of weird playing buff characters a la Skyrim style). but then, i generally identify, socially/emotionally, with some female characters more than most male ones. my favorite characters from games have almost exclusively been female - and i don't feel and dysmorphia about that. ALL THIS SAID, i don't tend to actually project on characters that much, which is probably why Skyrim feels so weird - you're supposed to BE that character and create them as you wish. playing the dragonborn and playing Barret from ff7 are completely different experiences in terms of characterizations, even if on the surface both may be big, burly men. (ironically, i would probably have less trouble with it if i picked the lizard or feline races, just because there's a clear distinction between me and the character there.)
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby viscomica » 22 Mar 2014, 19:30

As I'm a girl and I'm currently not in danger of being eaten by evil infected umbrella zombies, I don't identify with Leon S. Kennedy but that does not stop me from finding him extremely attractive! :D
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Bebop Man » 22 Mar 2014, 20:33

He does have very pretty hair.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby viscomica » 22 Mar 2014, 20:54

Not prettier than yours!
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Fenrir » 12 May 2014, 11:23

How has no one posted in this thread of fabulous since March!? That's criminal! *runs through*

To stay on topic though - I fully admit that as a gay guy, when I play any kind of roleplay game or MMO that allows you to customize your character I will generally make my dudes in such a way as I would find attractive. Is that kind of shallow? Perhaps, but hey.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby aeric90 » 12 May 2014, 13:35

I usually try to make my avatar look as much like me as possible like most people, but I suppose that if it was easy to portray the type of guy I like I would do it. They often don't template shorter, stockier, baby face guys as game heroes.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby cuddlyblade » 12 May 2014, 13:59

Fenrir wrote:Is that kind of shallow?


I wouldn't think so. I think it'd be far weirder if you were making characters who you found ugly or completely unattractive. If it's something your going to be looking at for a long time it might as well be something you find enjoyable to look at as far as i'm concerned.

(Hopefully that makes sense. I'm very very tired XD )
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby ex-Lurker » 12 May 2014, 14:15

I usually don't spend much time in character creation as far as appearance goes, since my avatar tends to turn in a walking suit of armor soon enough anyways. (Plus I tend to express myself in games through dialogue and decisions rather than appearance).
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Avistew » 12 May 2014, 14:35

I think it is shallow, but I don't see that as a bad thing. Be shallow about things that don't hurt anyone and bring something to you (you can objectify your character as much as you want. He's a character) and don't act that way towards people (such as only valuing them based on their looks) and you're fine.
Your characters are for you to enjoy. The reason why you enjoy them is irrelevant. Whether you're shallow because you make them look pretty, or narcissistic because you make them look like you, or whatever, it's not a bad thing. You could even argue games are meant to be that kind of outlet.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby cuddlyblade » 12 May 2014, 14:45

I agree. I'm usually more concerned about what choices I make or what choices other characters make than looks.

I usually just cycle through presets till i find one that I find acceptable. That or change the hair a bit and add scars and or tattoo's if available and that's about it. Never really understood the people who spend ages crafting a fictional character for a game. Not that there's anything wrong with it I just don't get it.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 13 May 2014, 00:59

If they use a model I find physically attractive, I will make them attractive. Both genders.

If the model is something I don't find attractive at all (the majority of World of Warcraft models - I don't play anymore), I will make them look bad arse.

I rarely make things look like me, except for the hair. Well, fantasy hair. I want blue hair (I used to). But sometimes blue hair doesn't suite the character I am creating.

With Mass Effect, I find a character who I want to punch the face of, makes it difficult for me to relate to the character I am playing. For example, I have no emotional attachment to Male Shepard, except for the sake of the people he had a social link with.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Deedles » 13 May 2014, 17:35

cuddlyblade wrote:I agree. I'm usually more concerned about what choices I make or what choices other characters make than looks.

I usually just cycle through presets till i find one that I find acceptable. That or change the hair a bit and add scars and or tattoo's if available and that's about it. Never really understood the people who spend ages crafting a fictional character for a game. Not that there's anything wrong with it I just don't get it.


If the same reason why people take a lot of time making decisions for a fictional character in a game; Because they like watching the character grow. And in the mind of those people characters like Shepherd will never be exactly the same as someone else's.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Yaxley » 14 May 2014, 08:49

AlexanderDitto wrote:I know Yaxley also played Gone Home and actually enjoyed it, so I'd be very interested to hear him weigh in on what he liked. (I think he's straight? I don't know, I've never asked him, I won't presume!)

I only just now saw this. I shall spoiler tag my answer.

I liked it for a lot of reasons. I enjoyed the indirect way the narrative was told (though apparently I totally missed the bit about the dad being abused). I'm basically the right age for all of the pop culture references to resonate. I like how the atmosphere scared me through most of the game. In fact, now that I think about it, I think the reason I liked the ending was that I kept imagining things that were so much worse. I was terrified to go into the attic because I was almost certain that I was going to find that Sam had committed suicide up there and I knew I wouldn't be able to take that. Irresponsible as the ending may be, at least there's some joy. The game made Sam feel like a real person and I was emotionally invested in her well-being.

I think the conversations about different responses is a good one to have. I don't remember how long it took me to figure out that Sam was gay, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't until something punched me in the face with the information (either the story about the First Mate turning into a woman or the porno in Sam's locker). She may have known since She-Ra, but I didn't. Nor did I share the anxiety of her coming out to her parents, so I guess what I felt was sympathy more than empathy, but it was still a crucial part of the story. I don't think I need to have had that experience to still find the story compelling, but obviously other will respond differently. Interestingly, at least to me, is that of all the people I've talked to about the game, the person who realized earliest that Sam was gay was a straight woman, so I suspect there is a gender aspect to this that I am missing as well. But I still think that the story was good enough that even though I have never been a teenage lesbian, I could still get invested in it.


Ahem. Yes. Response to a three-month-old post.

Now, on to the more recent video game discussion. When it comes to customizing characters, I try to create one who is interesting. It started way back when I first played KotOR. I started to roll my character and I was like, "Okay, Male. Soldier. 18 Strength... wait, this is every character in every game ever. So let's try... Female, Scoundrel, 18 Charisma." So I beat that game through stealth and diplomacy instead of brute strength and that, plus the fact that my character was female, made the game 10 times more interesting. And that's what led me to play as FemShep.

Deedles wrote:If the same reason why people take a lot of time making decisions for a fictional character in a game; Because they like watching the character grow. And in the mind of those people characters like Shepherd will never be exactly the same as someone else's.


Exactly. My Sheperd isn't even particularly pretty, but she's mine, dammit. I didn't end up creating a character I found attractive, but one who seemed interesting. I actually threw a fit when I imported her into ME3 and her hairstyle changed. THAT'S NOT HOW SHE LOOKS!

At least for Mass Effect, no matter who you or your Sheperd are into, there seems to be plenty of eye candy around.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby ex-Lurker » 14 May 2014, 13:28

I did end up liking my female character in Fallout: New Vegas quite a lot. Partially due to the game acknowledging you're playing a female, which is super cool, and partly because I really got into stealth and she's a stealth character.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby cuddlyblade » 15 May 2014, 06:11

Deedles wrote:And in the mind of those people characters like Shepherd will never be exactly the same as someone else's.


But there shepherd will be the same as somebody other person's one. Somebody else will make one who looks the same and make the same choices. I'm starting to think that I don't get nearly as attached to the fictional protagonist in games as other people seem to do.

Edit: Thinking on it I think I get far more attached to npc's rather than the main character. The pc always seemed more like just a tool to interact with the game rather than anything else.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Deedles » 15 May 2014, 06:35

Yeah, but that's exactly the same as 'every idea has been thought of before', but that doesn't stop authors from writing their stories. There might be someone out there who has created a character that is just like yours, but that doesn't change the fact that your character is your character to a lot of people.

It's something I felt even when playing WoW, where the character creation system is rather stark.
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 15 May 2014, 07:42

With Mass Effect I never liked my character. He was a vehicle in which I interacted with characters, saved people and had sex with Tali and ThatPilot (I forgot his name).

But with WoW, I do get an attachment. I mean, with WoW, I was willing to pay money to Server Transfer and Faction change old characters because they were mine and they had a history to them. Partly laziness, I mean, it's not fun releveling the same class again, especially in a MMORPG, but it was mostly emotional investment.

I've had the problem in WoW of falling in love with people's characters. I would get to know people over VOIP and get attached to them, and I would visualise their Character speaking with their voice (even men playing female characters or women playing male characters). It was quite difficult when I got to actually know them and they were nothing like how I imagined them. In fact it was quite hard sometimes... Sort of like a one-sided break of trust. I mean, they did nothing wrong, they were themselves, but it still was difficult to accept.

I think that's the difficulty with MMOs sometimes. You may meet someone and the fantasy aspect of the game fills in the voids. Sometimes the stuff hiding in the voids are things that would distress you. That's why I prefer getting attached to fictional characters in video games over other players now, because there isn't anything you're not being told usually. Oh Hurk (from Vindictus), you're so dreamy...
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Re: This thread is so gay

Postby AlexanderDitto » 15 May 2014, 16:06

Yaxley wrote:*snip Gone Home*


I am SO GLAD you saw it! This response is super interesting, the fact that the way the game is experienced by people can be so different... it's fascinating to me! I want to talk about it a lot more! GAH why can't you live in Philadelphia! You're already in Pennsylvania, you're SO CLOSE

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Re: the discussion people are having here, since I mostly play Nintendo/Indie games, I rarely get to customize a character. The only time I remember customizing a character in recent memory was like two years ago. My ex played MMOs and I once sat down and made a character and tried playing on his account (I don't even remember which one it was, haha, I know it wasn't WOW and it had plant-people and also these big muscular giant-type dudes? I don't know). Of course I made an attractive muscular giant-type dude. So I guess I fall into the "eye-candy" trap. But I dunno. I don't think I would have necessarily done that if I were playing a game with a real storyline, like Mass Effect. I would have almost certainly played FemShep.

OH! I am lying. I played Fire Emblem Awakening, which lets you customize your character, and yeah I played as a woman, and I'm very attached to her. :)

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