Yakuza - Day 3

[Trymantha]

Well, as should be a surprise to no one, it would appear that some people may have lied about their names.

just out of curiosity: where are you pulling this from? Is it an assumption, or something you found out overnight?

judging by the fact that the game is based on death note im assume how he got it

thats the reason why i posted about it on the first day because it is unfair to those that do not know the source material. which is in this case to kill someone with a death note i think you have to know what their real name(thats what i got form wikipedia at least)

[Trymantha]

people gonna post or anything its been 3 days

[Master Gunner]

As far as I can tell, Fayili, is neither pro nor anti town. Take of that what you may.

[Tapir12]

I keep totally forgetting about this.

I'm rather surprised I've survived this long.

That in itself is suspicious. The mafia/yakuza wouldn't kill their own. But then again they didn't kill anybody so who knows.

Gunner, do you have a reason for your suspicion?

[Trymantha]

Gunner is normally killed of during the first night in nearly every single game

[Master Gunner]

First or second, it's a toss up. Since I doubt I'll be able to report again, it's role-claim time. I can investigate the name or alignment of a player, and I investigated Fayili's alignment. The result came back as Kira.

Since nobody has claimed Light's role yet, though I may have missed it, and just common sense, saying that people were lying about their names was just an assumption on my part.

[elvor]

Interesting... This is either a lucky break on our part with finding Kira so quickly, or Gunner is lying and trying to throw us off. Not quite sure which.

[aeric90]

Well it certainly gets us more information, whether accurate or not, which is more than we have. Some folks suspected Fayili yesterday. Either way, Master Gunner becomes the primary target tonight anyways.

[Tapir12]

Well that's definitely something.

So it looks like there is a good chance that all the name are indeed from DeathNote then, which means that Robert Merlow is also suspicious because he gave a fake name.

If Gunner is telling the truth, Kira is probably the serial killer. Do we go ahead and remove the potential threat?

FOS: Fayili and Robert Merlow

[Stinkychops]

Tapir12 is the killer.

It's always the one you least expect.

Remember, when the chips are down and you're all tied up in the basement with the Gimp, I called it!

[JustAName]

I- great. So he points the finger at me, and I get lynched. And if not, and he's not actually yakuza, the actual yakuza kills him in the night and everyone suspects me. And if he is yakuza, he kills someone else and says I did it to throw suspicion off. Fffffff-

[Master Gunner]

Information is important. And as I recall, Light styled himself as a vigilante working for justice, at least at the beginning, so he could prove useful to the town, making an immediate lynch uncalled for. Not to mention that I was given the ability to investigate name or alignment, not both. The result indicates that there are likely at least three groups in the game. Town, Mafia, and Light's as a (mostly) neutral third party (at least this early in the game, depending on exact win condition).

Revealing your alignment, such as I can, supports the town at this point more than the mafia. If I were mafia and thought you dangerous, I'd target you during the night and eliminate you, sowing confusion without providing any extra information to the town due to my previous lack of activity. Assuming I am telling the truth, the town knows to keep an eye on you, and other power roles may have a better idea of where to direct their abilities. As well, the chance of lynching a mafia, assuming they decided not to lynch either of us and sort it out later, just went up.

As it stands, if you are lynched and revealed as a townie, my next will be next on the chopping block. With 15 people and likely only 3-4 mafia, the mafia is in a worse off position. If I'm lynched for trying to bluff and revealed as mafia, the mafia is even worse than in option #1. If I'm lynched and revealed as town, well I likely wouldn't have lasted much longer anyways, and the information I've provided becomes more trustworthy.

Of course, the possibility that I am mafia and pulling a massively convoluted scheme is certainly not to be discounted.

[Trymantha]

Vote: Chihiro Ogawa



im going with my gut, I was suspicious of you yesterday so im taking the risk.

[Master Gunner]

And of course there's also the possibility of people ignoring everything I say.

[Trymantha]

ohhhh right I shouldnt skim read should I

CHANGEVOTE: NO VOTE

[kodra]

Gunner's logic is right. It's possible he's selling his Yak friend up the river to look like a seer, so this shouldn't be a free pass, but let's follow this through. If Fay isn't yakuza and we lynch her, we know Gunner's a villain.

Vote: Fayili

[kodra]

Gunner's logic is right. It's possible he's selling his Yak friend up the river to look like a seer, so this shouldn't be a free pass, but let's follow this through. If Fay isn't yakuza and we lynch her, we know Gunner's a villain.

Vote: Fayili

[Danzama]

1 vote Fayili: Kodra

With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch

Let me know if I have anything wrong.

[Master Gunner]

Vote: Kodra

Kodra's attempting to lynch Fay to see if I'm right or not, despite me specifically saying that she isn't yakuza.

[kodra]

Wait, what? I'm so confused right now. What on earth does "Kira" mean anyways? Someone implied that it meant serial killer right? Isn't that someone we want to lynch?

CHANGEVOTE: NO VOTE

I just read the wikipedia synopsis of the story. Kira seems to be evil side of light obsessed with the power killing people gives him according to that article. Seems like a person we'd want dead ... What am I missing

[Trymantha]

from my readings of wikipedia Kira only kills bad people and maybe that one emo dude im not sure

[Master Gunner]

That is what I've read too. While Light/Kira may be drifting towards the dark side, his ostensible goal is for justice, which is useful for the town. Hence, while we should keep an eye on those aligned with him, they should not necessarily be at the top of the chopping block.

Changevote: No Vote

[JustAName]

Okay. I understand your reasoning from your impression. I still think you're sewing discord, but... Meh. At least you're not lynching me. Man, though. That would be cool if I *was* Kira.

Vote: No Vote

[iamafish]

my lack of knowledge of the source material is really making this hard

[Trymantha]

my lack of knowledge of the source material is really making this hard

why do you think i pointed out what the source material was on the first day. i mean i can understand why dnazama wanted to keep it secret
but those that didn't make to connection or have never read the source material were at to much of a dis advantage