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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby romangoro » 27 May 2014, 16:43

aeric90 didn't vote, just pointed at me.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby korvys » 27 May 2014, 17:00

Oh, so he did. My mistake.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby JackSlack » 27 May 2014, 20:41

Also, it's considered poor form to edit your posts in a mafia game, with the exception of the organiser. No ill-intent considered, I know it's your first round up.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Duckay » 27 May 2014, 20:50

It depends a bit on context. If you do it quickly before anyone replies to fix a typo or something, no sweat. However, if people have already replied, it's best to leave it untouched, just to prevent people from misconstruing it e.g. thinking you might have edited the content in a way that would affect the game.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Hepheastus » 28 May 2014, 00:03

I also find it suspicious that someone would jump on ship strait away as well, so unless someone can dissuade me

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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Conoros » 28 May 2014, 01:13

Quick aside: This really put me in the mood to watch 12 Angry Men

Vote: romangoro

Of the two options, I think Korvys v Memo was as much a misunderstanding as anything else, not really convinced that Korvys has done much to arouse suspicion
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Ptangmatik » 28 May 2014, 01:34

Difficult. It is, after all, possible that Memo is playing an excellent bluff and is an ace, rather than the four he has claimed. Ok, though, at least a vote represents progress.

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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby korvys » 28 May 2014, 02:13

Well, Romangoro, that's 6. You're time to speak up is now. I actually really don't like the way this is going, but I can't see another way. Despite yesterday, I believe Memo's innocence.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby romangoro » 28 May 2014, 04:45

JackSlack wrote:Also, it's considered poor form to edit your posts in a mafia game, with the exception of the organiser. No ill-intent considered, I know it's your first round up.


Yeah, you're right, that was stupid of me.

So, here's my only defense: I'm the nine of spades. I was about to just post the picture JackSlack PMd me, but that might be illegal, and I've done enough stupid things so far.

Just as we all believe AdmiralMemo because no one else claimed the card he claims, I expect the same treatment.

Also, I didn't
Hepheastus wrote:jump on ship strait away

I was leaning to side with Memo at the end of the first round, and went with that when this round started. So if Memo is blufing, I've been bluffed as well.

In the interest of peace, I'll change my vote for now:

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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Ptangmatik » 28 May 2014, 05:30

That's quite an interesting tactic, come to think of it, since all Town are quantified, so if anyone else is the four or the nine, then this would lead to an argument.

Ok, I'm the eight of hearts. Anyone else want to claim my card?

Changevote: Korvys

Although, you have no real evidence against korv except that he's taken against the word manoeuvring, which does just about have the French for egg in there, which is daft.

Care to sway my vote by telling us what card you are korv?
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby AdmiralMemo » 28 May 2014, 06:28

(I suspect this will get very much like the MLP Mafia game, only moreso.)
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Duckay » 28 May 2014, 07:57

I think AdmiralMemo is being honest, but I can't speak for anyone else.

The problem with this I can see is that while it's tempting to just ask everyone to come forward and claim a card, turning on everyone who is cagey, this leads to issues for the doctor or investigator, for example.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby aeric90 » 28 May 2014, 08:00

...and too many vanilla townies revealing just lets the mafia narrow down who has power roles. We shouldn't really be doing that unless our backs are up against the wall.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby romangoro » 29 May 2014, 09:57

*24hs of cricket sounds*
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Kapol » 29 May 2014, 11:22

I agree with Duckay and Aeric. Think about it this way. We now know three roles with confidence (since nobody has come forward). So out of the 12 left, there are 9 unknown roles. Out of those 9, there are 3 mafia. So there are five villagers and a joker. So out of 6 roles, we have 2 power roles, giving the mafia a 33% chance of hitting one tonight.

Though to get on the subject of actually moving forward... I have a question for Duckay. What made you choose to discard Romangoro? I'm curious, as you seemed pretty confident. At first, I'll admit, I thought it was because you were the investigator. But if you were, then you would have seen he was town (assuming he's not lying). So was there a reason why you went right after him like that? Or was it just a hunch?

romangoro wrote:So, here's my only defense: I'm the nine of spades. I was about to just post the picture JackSlack PMd me, but that might be illegal, and I've done enough stupid things so far.


I'd say against posting the image you got themselves. Largely because that could be taken as a method of proving who you are with an outside source. While it may be acceptable to the GM, it seems like it'd be poor form to me. This way, there's at least some doubt (though given nobody has stepped forward, I'm confident you're telling the truth).
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby romangoro » 29 May 2014, 11:26

I 100% agree that whowing your card is wrong, I would have disqualified myself if I'd done it.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Conoros » 29 May 2014, 13:20

It seems somewhat redundant really?

Getting an image of the nine of spades takes about two seconds with google and if two people come forward with different images, none of the players will know which is the right one anyway
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Duckay » 29 May 2014, 16:25

Kapol wrote:Though to get on the subject of actually moving forward... I have a question for Duckay. What made you choose to discard Romangoro? I'm curious, as you seemed pretty confident. At first, I'll admit, I thought it was because you were the investigator. But if you were, then you would have seen he was town (assuming he's not lying). So was there a reason why you went right after him like that? Or was it just a hunch?


It was essentially just a hunch. I'm more convinced of AdmiralMemo's innocence the more I think about it but romangoro following along with what he was doing so quickly raised my eyebrows. It seemed like a classic mafia "don't be the first to act, but follow along" tactic.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Preacher » 30 May 2014, 02:54

Given that this day needs to end at some point, and I haven't really heard anything to convince me 100% of his innocence.

Discard: Romangoro
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby JackSlack » 30 May 2014, 03:20

That's six for Romangoro, two for Korvys. Seven votes needed to discard.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby aeric90 » 30 May 2014, 05:05

Can anyone refute romangoro's claim that he is the 9 of spades? If not then we're lynching a townie and we should take a good long look at the 6 that are voting for him.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby korvys » 30 May 2014, 14:58

This is getting too close, and I think we need to talk about this more.

Discard: -(To be clear, I just want to remove my vote, and not risk triggering the next day)
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Duckay » 30 May 2014, 20:20

I'm not sure where to go from here, I don't think it's in our best interests to end the day with no lunch but I don't know exactly what is better...

I'm... thinking the best strategy is to go along with our best suspicions.

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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby Ptangmatik » 30 May 2014, 22:40

Preacher wrote:Given that this day needs to end at some point, and I haven't really heard anything to convince me 100% of his innocence.

Discard: Romangoro

But no one else has claimed to be the nine.

If someone else claims to be the nine then one of them is clearly lying, and we should discard one, and the other if the first one we discard turns out to be the nine, but no one has.

Therefore, the only reasonable conclusion is that he's town.
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Re: Cards on the Table Mafia: 2nd hand, Daytime

Postby korvys » 31 May 2014, 02:03

Can someone do the math; if we all just put our cards on the table, do we just win? Obviously the Aces will lie, but can we get through that before we lose?
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