Rage

[Matt]

Such an angry name for such a benign game.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/5234-Rage

-m

[Geoff_B]

That was funny. "What do you think Doom bobble head guy?" *Nods*

[Master Gunner]

Wow, that cutscene told me...absolutely nothing.

[Nirvana]

If I could get my hands on a Doom Marine Bobblehead, I would bring it to work so that it could provide me with a steady level of approval for all of my decisions throughout the day.

That, and if anyone I don't care for comes to my office I could pretend to hold a conversation with Doom Marine Bobblehead until they go away. Preferably after a substantially awkward silence.

[General Michi]

I think this is your first "guy in a car" cut scene where he reached his destination just fine . . . something's wrong *initiate conspiracy mode*

[plummeting_sloth]

Bobble Marine
Don't bobble Marine
I've got no blood
I just have orange crush...

[Gap Filler]

Its kind of sad that not even the old masters of the genre are above its current vices.

[Vigafre]

I think this is your first "guy in a car" cut scene where he reached his destination just fine . . . something's wrong *initiate conspiracy mode*

They cut out the part where the guy gets attacked right BEFORE he gets in the car, if that helps.

[Graham]

True!
And he starts by waking up from stasis if that makes a difference.

[ElementalAlchemist]

That was funny. "What do you think Doom bobble head guy?" *Nods*

Clearly, the Doom bobblehead guy was the winner of this video.
He's so chill.

[plummeting_sloth]

It'd be nice if the only line your otherwise voice protagonist had was to flick the Doom bobble and go

"Boom, headshot"

[Flewellyn]

I've seen this game played. It's kind of...not very good. Bog standard FPS with some minor RPG elements, and the plot is as sharp and incisive as a bowling ball.

That said, it does beautifully show off Bethesda's new post-apocalyptic desert terrain rendering capabilities. And ROJO said it was "compelling".

[ecks]

And he starts by waking up from stasis if that makes a difference.

...and that was the fourth time I undied.

[Lord Chrusher]

Speaking as a professional astrophysics this cut scene is bunk.

First off the orbit of 99942 Apophis does not cross Saturn's orbit. Its aphelion (farthest distance from the sun) is only 1.1 times the distance from the Earth to the Sun, significantly less than the radius of Mars' orbit. Even if its orbit took it out to Saturn, it would take at lrast decade for it to reach Earth.

If its path took it that close to Saturn its orbit would be wildly deflected. You think an object skipping off the Moon and hitting the Earth would be rare? A object going straight from Saturn to Earth would be much, much rarer.

The collision with Saturn's rings only shows the rings being made up of metre sized objects. In relativity the rings are made up of objects of dust size to metre size. Also the scale and structure of the rings is wrong.

Also asteroids are not that spiky.

The scale of the Moon and Apophis quite wrong. Apophis is about 300 metres across; the Moon is 3500 km across. Apophis would not bounce off the Moon as it would disintegrate on impact. Anyone who has dropped rock from a great height knows that rocks tend to fracture rather than bounce.

While 300 metre object would kill a large number of people (a million to ten million) and cause a lot of damage it would not be the end of the world. Even 34 years out we have a good idea where it would it hit; certainly by the time it go close we would know where it impact well enough to evacuate the effected region. The effect on the Earth as a whole would be about that 1883 eruption of Krakatoa. You would need an object tens larger in diameter to cause a mass extinction. The impact shown in the cut screen would be sort caused by a 10 km class object, the sort that killed off the dinosaurs.

Also we now know Apophis is unlikely to hit Earth. Even in the unlikely event that it would hit we would have plenty of warning. Deflecting an asteroid does not take much, certainly less work than burying people in cyropods. It would not even require Bruce Willis to land on the asteroid to drill nukes into it.

[plummeting_sloth]

Also, even if for some strange reason they didn't have enough time to deflect away from Earth, it seems within current technology to have slowed or skewed it just slightly enough that it would have hit the backside of the moon rather than charming off the side of it.

[Vigafre]

Which makes me ask:

Which is worse? The asteroid hitting the moon or the Earth?

[Flewellyn]

All of these things are very true, Lord Chrusher, but trust me when I say that astrophysics fail is the least of the game's problems.

[Master Gunner]

Which makes me ask:

Which is worse? The asteroid hitting the moon or the Earth?

As Chrusher indicated, it would just disintegrate on the moon, leaving a sizable crater. While it would do the same thing on Earth, there's nobody to potentially die from it on the Moon, which has certainly taken a lot worse in the past..

[Vigafre]

Oh right. Does that still apply if the scale of the asteroid in the game is used (which is more why I asked)?

[Master Gunner]

In attempting to answer that, I discovered that an asteroid the size of Apophis hit the moon in 1953 (well, the date is disputed, but possible), so that answers that.

According to this, debris from impacts of asteroids in the 2-10km range would cause some debris to enter the Earth's atmosphere, but nothing to worry about.

The moon may be smaller than the Earth, but it's still a freaking huge chunk of rock.

[Lord Chrusher]

If you compare the size of the planet to the size of its moons, Earth has a huge moon. The Moon has radius 27% of Earth's. Ganymede is quite a bit bigger than our Moon (over 80% the radius of Earth but Jupiter is so much bigger it is only 7% of Jupiter's radius.

[SilPho]

I think I've learnt some stuff from reading this thread. Thanks