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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ottoman » 13 Jun 2011, 17:48

Lyinginbedmon wrote:I've vowed to never play a Phyrexian card.
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Yeah, well, so did I, until NPH came out. Once there was no longer a choice of supporting sides, who cares? And, news flash: Phyrexian cards are FUCKING AWESOME.
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Postby Cybren » 13 Jun 2011, 19:07

It's okay, man. The red Phyrexians aren't evil
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Postby theDreamer » 13 Jun 2011, 19:09

They aren't _as_ evil.

Still evil.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Cybren » 13 Jun 2011, 19:10

Urabrask is like, super not evil.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ottoman » 13 Jun 2011, 19:17

Their redness and Phyrexian-ness pretty much cancel out. There was a whole flavour column about that, how the individuality and freedom inherent in one pull against the uniformity and hierarchical structure of the other.

The leaders of Urabrask's faction, who can think, are incredibly conflicted; the drones, who can't, are just neutral and apathic.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ollie, don'tcha know! » 14 Jun 2011, 01:10

It's just so annoying with this block, because the Mirrodin art is awesome, and I love the flavour of the Mirridon plane. Then the Phyrexians come and ruin it all!

And this whole 'dark and gritty approach' doesn't look like it's going to go away any time soon, looking at all the promotional stuff for Innistrad.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Trymantha » 14 Jun 2011, 01:46

yeah but Inn looks more Gothic horror than evil creature horror(from the one pic we have seen) and lets face it when was the last time the good guys truly won in magic
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 14 Jun 2011, 03:35

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Lyinginbedmon wrote:I've vowed to never play a Phyrexian card.
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Yeah, well, so did I, until NPH came out. Once there was no longer a choice of supporting sides, who cares? And, news flash: Phyrexian cards are FUCKING AWESOME.

I will grant that they are powerful, but I've loved Mirrodin since the original Mirrodin block, it's when I started playing Magic in the first place. I supported the Mirran coalition, I held true that Karn would escape Phyrexia's grasp long before whisperings came from Wizards about it, and I built a Myr deck around the Galvanizer loop in response to Besieged coming out.

I will not support the wretched scum that coats the plane now.

That said, I recognise that they are indeed potent cards. I'd love to find a spot for a Moltensteel Dragon or two, they're awesome. And if the Furnace Layer ever "compleats" its transition away from Phyrexia and allies with Mirrodin, I'll probably shuffle a few red Phyrexian cards into my Myr deck, but begrudgingly.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ollie, don'tcha know! » 14 Jun 2011, 03:44

I was drafting the other day and managed to get a Galvinizer loop going in a game by accident...
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby njsykora » 14 Jun 2011, 10:57

Phyrexia are the most popular enemy force in Magic, and way more fun to play than the Mirrans. That said there are still potent Mirrans in the New Phyrexia set, so you're hardly forced into playing Phyrexian.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ottoman » 14 Jun 2011, 12:55

Lyinginbedmon wrote:I will grant that they are powerful, but I've loved Mirrodin since the original Mirrodin block, it's when I started playing Magic in the first place.
Same here.
Lyinginbedmon wrote:I supported the Mirran coalition,
Yep.
Lyinginbedmon wrote:I held true that Karn would escape Phyrexia's grasp long before whisperings came from Wizards about it,
Well, we always knew that Karn was badass.
Lyinginbedmon wrote:and I built a Myr deck around the Galvanizer loop in response to Besieged coming out.
Oh yes.

Still, there's such a thing a taking the flavour too far.
njsykora wrote:Phyrexia are the most popular enemy force in Magic, and way more fun to play than the Mirrans.
Personally, I find none of my phi-mana decks are quite as fun as my affinity, myr, or colossus ones. The original Mirrodin block had much crazier and more awesome stuff, though, so Scars block drafts are probably more fun from the Phyrexian side.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Trymantha » 14 Jun 2011, 13:21

the whole thing with Karn is that I don't think the cost payed to have him back in the story was not worth it
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 14 Jun 2011, 13:23

You don't think he was not worth it?

So you think he was worth the cost?
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Postby Trymantha » 14 Jun 2011, 14:31

the story line cost was not worth it in my opinion



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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

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Trymantha wrote:the whole thing with Karn is that I don't think the cost payed to have him back in the story was not worth it
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Lacerta » 14 Jun 2011, 16:08

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What am I missing? I don't see any mythics in that list. I mean, it looks like a solid deck for a precon, but I don't think I'd buy it just for the rares.

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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Lacerta » 14 Jun 2011, 16:09

Wait, there's a storyline?
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby theDreamer » 14 Jun 2011, 16:11

Too bad that's impossible.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Cybren » 14 Jun 2011, 16:20

Venser teleported his own heart into karn so thar melira could purify the phyrexianocity out of him, as karns was too corrupted. This kills Venser and gives karn his spark
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Lacerta » 14 Jun 2011, 16:23

theDreamer wrote:Too bad that's impossible.

Back in Alpha days there was no Four-of-a-kind rule, the only real deckbuilding rule was a 40 (yes, 40) card minimum.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

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Cybren wrote:Venser teleported his own heart into karn so thar melira could purify the phyrexianocity out of him, as karns was too corrupted. This kills Venser and gives karn his spark


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Postby Lacerta » 14 Jun 2011, 20:03

His sideburns will live on. Probably as a mythic equipment.
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby gcninja » 15 Jun 2011, 03:30

So, my last post here being forever ago and the same for buying cards, I was thinking of picking up the phyrexia vs coalition for 15 bucks and a couple of boosters, I've read good things on this and was wondering your opinion. It's two decks, and its got great reviews and said to be good for beginners, thoughts?
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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby ebMusicMan » 15 Jun 2011, 03:52

They look as good as any pre-con decks that are available. Personally I would suggest getting two of the Mirrodin Besieged or New Phyrexia event decks. As far as learning goes these decks will give you a better feel for the current T2 scene, and will give you more cards you can actually use when it comes time to construct your first FNM deck. Heck you can use the event decks at FNM if you want to, you probably won't win much though.

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Re: Magic: The Gathering: Whatcha mean, there's no thread yet?

Postby Ollie, don'tcha know! » 15 Jun 2011, 07:06

gcninja wrote:So, my last post here being forever ago and the same for buying cards, I was thinking of picking up the phyrexia vs coalition for 15 bucks and a couple of boosters, I've read good things on this and was wondering your opinion. It's two decks, and its got great reviews and said to be good for beginners, thoughts?


That pack isn't actually from the current Phyrexian-themed block. Just thought you might want to know if you thought it was. You'd be far better off getting a current pre-con, as it's always more fun to stay up with the global metagame
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