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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby WickedBoy6 » 07 Jul 2014, 18:50

Make it B/U/G for some Savage Summoning or Prophet of Kruphix and some evil surprises. Granted, Prophet might be a telegraph, but what are they gonna do? NOT search in EDH?
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby cuddlyblade » 07 Jul 2014, 19:26

It's either gonna be that or the most horrible mono black i can manage running things like Contamination.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby MowDownJoe » 08 Jul 2014, 04:59

I'm planning on building him solely because of my EDH meta at my uni being so combo-focused. I'm hoping he'll be a wrecking ball there, and then we can get back to actual fun Magic instead of a bunch of single-player games.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Asthanius » 08 Jul 2014, 08:37

I don't think you all understand the implications of Ob Nixilis, Unshackled in EDH.

Commander: Maralen of the Mornsong

Decklist:
53x Shadowborn Apostle
1x Rune-Scarred Demon
1x Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
1x Thrumming Stone
1x Wound Reflection
1x Fated Return
1x Diabolic Revelation
40x Swamp

Game Plan:
1) Get out 6 Shadowborn Apostles and sacrifice them to put a Rune-Scarred Demon into play, finding Thrumming Stone.
2) Play Thrumming Stone, then cast Shadowborn Apostle.
3) Sacrifice 6 Shadowborn Apostles to put Ob Nixilis, Unshackled into play, then cast Maralen of the Mornsong.
4) Find Diabolic Revelation with Maralen of the Mornsong and cast it for X = 2, finding Wound Reflection and Fated Return.
5) Cast Wound Reflection.
6) If Ob Nixilis, Unshackled dies, cast Fated Return to bring him back and make him indestructible.
7) Win.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby WickedBoy6 » 08 Jul 2014, 15:39

Well, here's my current Sliver EDH deck, pre-M15, of course. I think the Hive, the Hivelord, and all five Slivers could easily fit in here once they are officially released, but for now, Here it is.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Garwulf » 10 Jul 2014, 16:19

Here is my current primary deck, for those who are interested. It's inspired by Noah, and I call it "Wrath of God" (ironically, no, there is no Wrath of God card in it...yet). It basically involves an angry, vengeful god ending the world (so, lots of angels, humans, and board clearers).

These cards are in no particular order.

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Commander: Sigarda, Host of Herons

Creatures:

Angel of Mercy
Seraph of the Sword
Angelic Page
Devout Chaplain
Emeria Angel
Hopeful Eidolon
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Sunblast Angel
Ancestor's Chosen
Angelic Overseer
Soulmender
Pristine Angel
Angelic Curator
Aegis Angel
Goldnight Commander
Goldnight Redeemer
Ghost Warden
Opal Archangel (it starts as an enchantment, but becomes an angel)
Angel of Serenity
Order of the Stars
Doomed Traveler
Master of Diversion
Requiem Angel
Observant Alseid
Guardian Seraph
Serra Advocate
Knight of the Skyward Eye
Angel of Glory's Rise
Mystic Visionary

Other spells:

Excoriate
Knighthood
Alabaster Potion
Smite the Monstrous
Heart of Light
Revoke Existence
Angelic Removal
Contemplation
Divine Deflection
Spare from Evil
Ray of Dissolution
Graceful Reprieve
Angel's Mercy
Righteousness
Ajani's Mantra
Swords to Plowshares
Invincible Hymn
Phytoburst
Pacifism
Day of Judgement
Fated Retribution
Angelic Accord
Hero's Resolve
Defy Death
Builder's Blessing
Lifelink
Hour of Reckoning
Divine Reckoning
Commander's Authority
Regrowth

Artifacts:

Angel's Tomb
Sol Ring
Angelic Armaments
Darksteel Ingot

Lands

Maze of Ith
Haunted Fengraf
Unknown Shores
Elfhame Palace
Selesnya Guildgate
Sunpetal Grove
Plains (x21)
Forest (x9)

(And if that doesn't equal 100 cards, that means I've miscounted the Plains or Forests.)


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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby JackSlack » 10 Jul 2014, 19:13

Asthanius wrote:I don't think you all understand the implications of Ob Nixilis, Unshackled in EDH.
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1) Get out 6 Shadowborn Apostles and sacrifice them to put a Rune-Scarred Demon into play, finding Thrumming Stone.


Flash in Aven Mindcensor?

(But seriously, yeah, that's kinda brutal.)
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby The E » 11 Jul 2014, 09:59

I've been tuning my Angels deck a bit, switched Gisela as Commander for Aurelia, and put in a couple cards from Conspiracy and Theros block, and voila:

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//Commander
1 Aurelia, the Warleader

//Lands
1 Boros Garrison
1 Boros Guildgate
1 Command Tower
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Homeward Path
9 Mountain
1 Naya Panorama
1 New Benalia
13 Plains
1 Rupture Spire
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
1 Vivid Crag

//Spells
1 Angelic Edict
1 Assemble the Legion
1 Banishing Stroke
1 Blessing
1 Boros Charm
1 Chained to the Rocks
1 Darksteel Mutation
1 Detainment Spell
1 Dictate of the Twin Gods
1 Divine Verdict
1 Fall of the Hammer
1 Fated Retribution
1 Gleam of Battle
1 Lightning Helix
1 Master Warcraft
1 Order // Chaos
1 Paraselene
1 Rally the Righteous
1 Revoke Existence
1 Scourge of the Nobilis
1 Serra's Blessing
1 Solar Tide
1 Spare from Evil
1 Spirit Mantle
1 Warleader's Helix
1 Warstorm Surge
1 Wrath of God

//Artifacts
1 Armory of Iroas
1 Boros Keyrune
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Sol Ring
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Godsend
1 Hall of Triumph
1 Fireshrieker

//Creatures
1 Adarkar Valkyrie
1 Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran
1 Angel of Flight Alabaster
1 Angel of Jubilation
1 Angel of Serenity
1 Angelic Overseer
1 Angelic Skirmisher
1 Archangel of Strife
1 Basandra, Battle Seraph
1 Blazing Archon
1 Celestial Archon
1 Celestial Crusader
1 Custodi Squire
1 Emancipation Angel
1 Emeria Angel
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Firemane Avenger
1 Guardian of the Gateless
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
1 Herald of War
1 Moonveil Dragon
1 Mother of Runes
1 Noble Templar
1 Razia, Boros Archangel
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Scourge of the Throne
1 Seraph of the Sword
1 Serra Avenger
1 Tajic, Blade of the Legion
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Prospero101 » 11 Jul 2014, 10:37

I feel like an Anthem effect of some kind is needed here.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby The E » 11 Jul 2014, 11:06

Obelisk of Urd from M15 is definitely a card I want to have in there.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Kinpatsu » 11 Jul 2014, 12:22

I've finally got an EDH deck together. As a wise man once said, "My commander is Ezuri. He's an elf. The deck is full of elves. Elves that go looking for other elves. I call the deck, 'Jesus Christ, Look At All Those Goddamn Elves'."

It's explosive, it's flavorful, it's not always fair, but I love it so much.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go back and read the rest of the thread to look for ideas for my Marchesa Modular and Tariel Angels decks.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Lurkon » 11 Jul 2014, 16:11

I can't wait to get a copy of Master of Predicaments for my Sphinxageddon deck. I think the only sphinx that I like more is Sphinx Ambassador. Any turn I get to look at a player and ask him to guess something is a good turn. Honestly I don't even need to get anything out of it.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby AdmiralMemo » 12 Jul 2014, 13:45

After pulling a Marchesa (39th pick!) from a Vintage Masters draft (that I scrubbed out of), I've decided to try to completely break her abilities in Commander.

Marchesa + Undying = You can't get rid of these guys
Marchesa + Unleash = Unless I need blockers, you can't get rid of these guys
Marchesa + Grave Betrayal = After your guy dies, I get it back twice
Marchesa + Mark of Mutiny = You can't kill your best guy while I have it or I just get it again
Marchesa + Modular = Keep pumping up those artifact creatures

I'm throwing Ob Nixilis in for sure. Since a lot of stuff will be ETB multiple times, Purphoros goes in. Desecration Demon gets in. The 3 on-color Ordeals get in. Exava and Saphire Drake certainly get in. I'm throwing in some good blue Evolve (like Simic Manipulator) and some black Scavenge to get more counters on, plus some good Monstrous creatures and some of the Innistrad Vampires that get counters when they hit players.

Sound like a good plan? :D
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby MowDownJoe » 12 Jul 2014, 13:54

Seems strong. Might also want to throw in some persist dudes as well, since the +1/+1 counters from Dethrone wipe away the -1/-1 counters from persist.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby AdmiralMemo » 12 Jul 2014, 16:00

No, they don't "wipe them away"... They merely counter-balance them. A 2/2 that gets a -1/-1 counter and a +1/+1 counter will still have those counters, even if that still makes it a 2/2.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Lurkon » 12 Jul 2014, 16:02

AdmiralMemo wrote:No, they don't "wipe them away"... They merely counter-balance them. A 2/2 that gets a -1/-1 counter and a +1/+1 counter will still have those counters, even if that still makes it a 2/2.

No, they cease to exist as a state-based action.

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121.2. If a permanent has both a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter on it, N +1/+1 and N -1/-1 counters
are removed from it as a state-based action, where N is the smaller of the number of +1/+1 and -1/-1
counters on it. See rule 704.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby AdmiralMemo » 12 Jul 2014, 18:14

Oh hunh. I've been playing wrong then.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby tamaness » 13 Jul 2014, 04:36

yeah, it's a less energetic matter-antimatter reaction

BUT if your Undying guy dies with both a +1/+1 counter and enough -1/-1 counters on it to kill it, it'll not come back, as it dies to state based actions before the counters annihilate each-other, and it had a +1/+1 when it died.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Karnasis » 13 Jul 2014, 18:37

First time posting in EDH page, but afetr the fan draft yesterday I wanted to play a different format. After playing Memo's mean deck (and it can be) I got serious in altering the deck I played against him to what I ACTUALLY have in paper magic (otherwise known to my friends as the annoying deck)

http://imgur.com/o0ue3Yb

I made a screenshot as I have replicated card for card on Mtgo for what is in my paper commander deck (except my paper deck has a thopter foundry as a place holder for my decree of pain. Too lazy to find it and add it in). Thoughts?

Oh and I tested it against another player, it can lead to opponents timing out (and even though it's heavy lifegain I have actually won paper games with a Lazav Rhox Faithmender that debts for 40 on two opponents and I gain 160 life :P)

Edit: Also, the remaining lands are basics, and I know I could add a Godless Shrine and a Watery Grave to it to improve efficiency and take out the guildgates, but it'll suffice as it is.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby ElFuzzy » 15 Jul 2014, 06:43

Has Kathleen's Faerie Commander Decklist ever been posted? I found Oona in DotP 2014 and using her made me wanna see if I can find/make it.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby ForOhFor Error » 15 Jul 2014, 19:28

Finally got a working Brago list. It seems strong, and I think I have enough threats to win games now. Reality acid and quarry colossus have done a huge amount of work from the few games I've played with him, and he can be super threatening with just a few cards on board.

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//Artifact (5)
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Ichor Wellspring
1 Pristine Talisman
1 Prophetic Prism
1 Swiftfoot Boots

//Artifact Creature (1)
1 Phyrexian Metamorph

//Creature (29)
1 Æther Adept
1 Archaeomancer
1 Auramancer
1 Azorius Justiciar
1 Cloud of Faeries
1 Drogskol Captain
1 Evangel of Heliod
1 Flickerwisp
1 Frost Titan
1 Glimmerpoint Stag
1 Goldnight Redeemer
1 Griffin Dreamfinder
1 Gulf Squid
1 Heliod's Pilgrim
1 Knight-Captain of Eos
1 Luminate Primordial
1 Man-o'-War
1 Mother of Runes
1 Phyrexian Ingester
1 Quarry Colossus
1 Restoration Angel
1 Sage Aven
1 Sea Gate Oracle
1 Slithermuse
1 Stonehorn Dignitary
1 Sun Titan
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Suture Priest
1 Wing Splicer

//Enchantment (16)
1 Act of Authority
1 Cage of Hands
1 Cathars' Crusade
1 Chosen by Heliod
1 Cloud Cover
1 Copy Enchantment
1 Declaration of Naught
1 Detention Sphere
1 Dream Leash
1 Exclusion Ritual
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Mystic Remora
1 Reality Acid
1 Rhystic Study
1 Traveler's Cloak
1 Unquestioned Authority

//Instant (9)
1 Afterlife
1 Brainstorm
1 Cloudshift
1 Counterspell
1 Daze
1 Disenchant
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Render Silent
1 Saving Grasp

//Planeswalker (1)
1 Jace, Memory Adept

//Sorcery (1)
1 Deep Analysis

//Land (37)
1 Azorius Guildgate
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Hallowed Fountain
14 Island
15 Plains
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Temple of the False God


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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby J_S_Bach » 29 Jul 2014, 17:49

I'm currently working on building a five colour commander deck around the fifteen gods of Theros. But I'm unsure of where the temples fall into the duplicate spell rule. Is it ONLY basic land you're allowed multiples of; or are you allowed multiples of any kind of land?
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Duckay » 29 Jul 2014, 17:51

Just basic land - nonbasic lands can only be single copies as well.
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby J_S_Bach » 29 Jul 2014, 18:13

Thanks
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Re: Commander/EDH Deck Talk

Postby Phosphatide » 29 Jul 2014, 20:52

As a note, because Snow Lands also have the Basic type you can have as many of those as you want as well.

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