The Limited thread
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Re: The Limited thread
If you had not said that Utilitarian, I was going to take it and just go to town expanding and exaggerating it further.
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Re: The Limited thread
RAGE!!!!!
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Re: The Limited thread
S'why I tend to avoid sealed: sometimes you're just fucked from the getgo
Look at the cards. LOOK AT THE CARDS!
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Re: The Limited thread
Here's the deck I'd play:
Basically, it turns into a control-ish deck meant to buy you time. You have draw power to try getting to your primary win-cons. Which, in this case, would be dismiss into dream (which combos with Zephyr Charge and Rod of Ruin) and Scavenging Ooze. You can also get them from Ring of Three Wishes, or steal something of your opponents with Domestication if need be.
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Dismiss Into Dream
Wall of Frost
Seacoast Drake
Trained Condor
Messenger Drake
Divination
Disperse
Frost Breath
Frost Breath
Claustrophobia
Zephyr Charge
Elvish Mystic
Scavenging Ooze
Ranger's Guile
Giant Growth
Lay of the Land
Fog
Rod of Ruin
Darksteel Ingot
Ring of Three Wishes
Domestication
Opportunity
9x Islands
9x Forests
Wall of Frost
Seacoast Drake
Trained Condor
Messenger Drake
Divination
Disperse
Frost Breath
Frost Breath
Claustrophobia
Zephyr Charge
Elvish Mystic
Scavenging Ooze
Ranger's Guile
Giant Growth
Lay of the Land
Fog
Rod of Ruin
Darksteel Ingot
Ring of Three Wishes
Domestication
Opportunity
9x Islands
9x Forests
Basically, it turns into a control-ish deck meant to buy you time. You have draw power to try getting to your primary win-cons. Which, in this case, would be dismiss into dream (which combos with Zephyr Charge and Rod of Ruin) and Scavenging Ooze. You can also get them from Ring of Three Wishes, or steal something of your opponents with Domestication if need be.
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Re: The Limited thread
Personally, I'd go UB w/ a green splash for Ooze. Control heavy and utilizes the most of the creatures pulled.
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Re: The Limited thread
Honestly, I was torn between U/G, U/B, and G/B. I don't think that ooze is a good splash though. You need a good amount of mana to activate it's ability, especially if you play it late-game.
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Re: The Limited thread
I went Black (5) Green (7) blue(5) I would have gone lower green because I didnt have much but I wanted to howl for at least 3 if I hit it.
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Re: The Limited thread
Kapol wrote:Honestly, I was torn between U/G, U/B, and G/B. I don't think that ooze is a good splash though. You need a good amount of mana to activate it's ability, especially if you play it late-game.
I agree that it is not the best splash, I'd run with 18 land and the ingot mainly so the ooze is more viable in the shutdown key grave-recursion cards (with an upside if it hits creatures).
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Re: The Limited thread
I'm looking at Ooze as more of the deck's real bomb. It becomes huge pretty quick. And if you're careful, it can get big enough to avoid burn too.
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Re: The Limited thread
I feel that green just isn't deep enough to survive and there is some insurance against Ooze removal though limited.
Hence why I'd be using Ooze as a utility-bomb (with targets thanks to B removal and U counters) more so than a flat-out bomb.
Hence why I'd be using Ooze as a utility-bomb (with targets thanks to B removal and U counters) more so than a flat-out bomb.
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Re: The Limited thread
OK I just played against the sickest sealed pool ever with what I shall call Mehh.
Opponent one had two scavenging ooze, Good hydra, double Enlarge triple deadly recluse.
Opponent two had 12 slivers in red green (brown) and two doors. He said he lost game one to someone with three shocks, two outrages and a doom blade.
Opponent three had from what I could tell almost mono blue fliers with three Wardens Double Air Servant, Double messanger drake, double Seakite and a mind seeker with splash of white for double pacifism, serra, Archangel of thune which he got out both games.
I have never lost 6 games strait before. I am so sad.
Opponent one had two scavenging ooze, Good hydra, double Enlarge triple deadly recluse.
Opponent two had 12 slivers in red green (brown) and two doors. He said he lost game one to someone with three shocks, two outrages and a doom blade.
Opponent three had from what I could tell almost mono blue fliers with three Wardens Double Air Servant, Double messanger drake, double Seakite and a mind seeker with splash of white for double pacifism, serra, Archangel of thune which he got out both games.
I have never lost 6 games strait before. I am so sad.
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Re: The Limited thread
Work allowing, get my first taste of Theros limited tomorrow.
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Re: The Limited thread
My opponent really does have a point.
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Re: The Limited thread
Haha.
Also, how have you gotten your side of the battlefield ontop instead of bottom?
Also, how have you gotten your side of the battlefield ontop instead of bottom?
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Re: The Limited thread
Replay. I was clicking ok for the win when he said that so I had to go back and make sure it was there.
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Re: The Limited thread
First Theros draft on MTGO is in the books and I should probably just quit while I'm ahead. 3-0 with this deck, mainly red with some light blue and white. It wasn't a super-cohesive deck (I started trying for an aggressive red/white heroic deck but didn't really get there), but it worked well and with a few fixers the mana was fine.
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Re: The Limited thread
At the Escapist Expo, some of us runners did a draft with Graham and some other expo attendees. It was pretty good fun. My third pack, I opened up an Anger Of The Gods... and a foil red god. Needless to say, I was happy. I also got a bunch of other great stuff from the draft, including a couple of temples.
I did a second draft before the concerts Saturday. I figured that I'd have plenty of time before the Miracle of Sound started playing (we started at 7, the doors opened at 8:30, and there were two acts before MoS). I drafted a SICK blue pool. I had a Master of Waves, three of the flying nymphs, two of the hexproof giants, an aqueous form, Swan Song, Prognostic Sphinx, and a bunch of other great stuff. I also picked up two temples, including the U/B one. So I splashed black for two Read the Bones and a Returned Phalenx. It should have been an easy win...
Except the drafting took a while since the people were all new to the set. I actually kind of knew some of them, and they had pressured me into joining since they needed one more. But it was still fine. I won my first match, and then went to watch the last one going on.
Two of the people playing ended up taking over 2 hours to play their match. The judges had not set a timer.
They finished, and I played through the second round and won pretty quickly. But it was 10:30 at this point. I was really worried I would miss the concert, which was the biggest single thing that I went for. So the judge, due to the fact that the first round was partly due to their mistake, allowed me to pre-emptively scoop the last round. It was a bummer, but oh well. I got good stuff in the draft, including two more temples.
I went the next day to pick up my prize packs. I open them. First pack, foil Savage Surge and a Artisan of Forms. Pretty solid. The next, an Elspeth. So right there I'm good. I open the last pack...
Another foil red god.
Can someone honestly do the calculations on how unlikely that is? Because out of the 9 packs I opened, I got two of the same foil mythic. That just boggles my mind.
EDIT: In the second draft, I also ended up with a foil and normal version of the green prerelease promo card in the same pack.
I did a second draft before the concerts Saturday. I figured that I'd have plenty of time before the Miracle of Sound started playing (we started at 7, the doors opened at 8:30, and there were two acts before MoS). I drafted a SICK blue pool. I had a Master of Waves, three of the flying nymphs, two of the hexproof giants, an aqueous form, Swan Song, Prognostic Sphinx, and a bunch of other great stuff. I also picked up two temples, including the U/B one. So I splashed black for two Read the Bones and a Returned Phalenx. It should have been an easy win...
Except the drafting took a while since the people were all new to the set. I actually kind of knew some of them, and they had pressured me into joining since they needed one more. But it was still fine. I won my first match, and then went to watch the last one going on.
Two of the people playing ended up taking over 2 hours to play their match. The judges had not set a timer.
They finished, and I played through the second round and won pretty quickly. But it was 10:30 at this point. I was really worried I would miss the concert, which was the biggest single thing that I went for. So the judge, due to the fact that the first round was partly due to their mistake, allowed me to pre-emptively scoop the last round. It was a bummer, but oh well. I got good stuff in the draft, including two more temples.
I went the next day to pick up my prize packs. I open them. First pack, foil Savage Surge and a Artisan of Forms. Pretty solid. The next, an Elspeth. So right there I'm good. I open the last pack...
Another foil red god.
Can someone honestly do the calculations on how unlikely that is? Because out of the 9 packs I opened, I got two of the same foil mythic. That just boggles my mind.
EDIT: In the second draft, I also ended up with a foil and normal version of the green prerelease promo card in the same pack.
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Re: The Limited thread
MtGO Theros pre-release = ALL of my hate...
Bad pools, one game where I lost by 1 damage because I mis-tapped my mana and couldn't ping the last life point off my opponent, mana screw all around, and MtGO constantly disconnecting... Out of 3 tournaments, I ended up 1-3 (and that only due to a bye), 0-4, and 0-4 (though I'm contesting the third because MtGO connection failures caused me to only play 1 round out of 4 for that tournament).
Bad pools, one game where I lost by 1 damage because I mis-tapped my mana and couldn't ping the last life point off my opponent, mana screw all around, and MtGO constantly disconnecting... Out of 3 tournaments, I ended up 1-3 (and that only due to a bye), 0-4, and 0-4 (though I'm contesting the third because MtGO connection failures caused me to only play 1 round out of 4 for that tournament).
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Re: The Limited thread
Such a good pool. Side note, I realized that time ebb doesnt work with the elite arcanist round one game one, and went "OHHH CRAP, INSTANT!"
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Re: The Limited thread
Won my swiss, pulled an Elspeth. Theros is gearing up to be my best draft set
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Re: The Limited thread
Oh sweet I just opened four shocks two Chandras outrage and thee of those dragons that pop out of eggs in my Limited pool.
Oh wait no, (reads the cards) thats one shock on top of 3 smelts. two outrages and three dragon hatchlings, which are not NEARLY as good as dragon eggs DAMIT!
At least I didn't submit.
Oh wait no, (reads the cards) thats one shock on top of 3 smelts. two outrages and three dragon hatchlings, which are not NEARLY as good as dragon eggs DAMIT!
At least I didn't submit.
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Re: The Limited thread
On top is the pool, the bottom is my deck with my record, did I force it because of the mythics?
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Re: The Limited thread
Sealed PTQ yesterday. I didn't do well (4-4) in the end, but it was a good day nonetheless. My pool was not amazing, but I can't blame that for my performance. I'm sure there was a better deck I could have built, or better plays I could have made.
My deck was:
3 Leonin Snarecaster
3 Scholar of Athreos
2 Hundred-Handed One
2 Disciple of Phenax
1 Tormented Hero
1 Lash of the Whip
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Boon of Erebos
1 Yoked Ox
1 Pharika's Cure
1 Read the Bones
2 Battlewise Valor
1 Baleful Eidolon
1 Travelling Philosopher
1 Sentry of the Underworld
1 Viper's Kiss
9 Plains
8 Swamp
My deck was:
3 Leonin Snarecaster
3 Scholar of Athreos
2 Hundred-Handed One
2 Disciple of Phenax
1 Tormented Hero
1 Lash of the Whip
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Boon of Erebos
1 Yoked Ox
1 Pharika's Cure
1 Read the Bones
2 Battlewise Valor
1 Baleful Eidolon
1 Travelling Philosopher
1 Sentry of the Underworld
1 Viper's Kiss
9 Plains
8 Swamp
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Re: The Limited thread
I'm not a huge fan of the tap cat, unless you're quite aggressive, where this looks like it would want to slow things down.
In the same spot, I'd probably like something like Returned Phalanx, if you had them. Looks pretty ok otherwise.
However, you probably shouldn't listen to me, I went 0-3 drop at the sealed PTQ I went to.
In the same spot, I'd probably like something like Returned Phalanx, if you had them. Looks pretty ok otherwise.
However, you probably shouldn't listen to me, I went 0-3 drop at the sealed PTQ I went to.
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Re: The Limited thread
Yeah, I had exactly 0 Returned Phalanx in my pool, which wasn't nice. The tap cats basically served three purposes, none of which is the "typical" way I'd like to play the tap cat. Coming down early (and not tapping anything) to get in for early damage against my opponent's empty board, chump blocking something big, or coming down late game so I can get in for a bit more damage with Hundred-Handed One or something.
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