Lord Hosk wrote:Their reply was a very helpful explanation that "when this creature attacks" is a ability that only triggers on the attack step when the creature moves from "on the board to attacking in the red zone" the token didn't exist during that phase so that ability doesn't work. The card never "attacked" it appeared in a state of "attacking" which is after "attacks are declared." The wording is a little confusing.
Yeah, it's super confusing, even when judges are talking to other judges you have to be careful to keep it all straight. But there's two concepts: attacking (verb) and attacking (adjective). To "attack" as a verb means to be declared as an attacker during the Declare Attackers step turn-based action. To be "attacking" as an adjective is a property of those creatures which are currently involved in the combat.
Most creatures that "attacked" are "attacking"... unless they're removed from combat (eg regeneration, changing controller,
Hollowhenge Spirit, etc). Most creatures that are "attacking" are that way because they "attacked"... unless they became attacking due to some ability directly setting that property, instead of by the Declare Attackers step (eg "put a thing onto the battlefield attacking" effects).
It's dumb and they should probably have better terms for it, but that's the way the rules work. Hopefully they'll reword the template a bit someday to make it clearer (like how they changed power/toughness-setting effects to say "base power and toughness" in M15).
Lord Hosk wrote:"but I will reimburse you your tickets and clan token anyways have fun Im a super awesome guy who cares more about people understanding the game and having fun than about digital tickets." -bill (I am paraphrasing the last bit)
Nice. WotC is really good about that sort of thing.
If I could have redone pack one I think it was a 3-0 deck. pack two and three were fine but pack one meh.
