Every OS Sucks

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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Melon » 07 Dec 2010, 19:16

I really hope this video spurs people to buy Wes' stuff. I feel like he's not getting the credit he deserves.
Oh, and the video was funny. The costumes that represented the different systems were great.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Lord Chrusher » 08 Dec 2010, 00:41

Drinnik wrote:If you can't game with linux, what's the point?


People do use computers for things other than gaming though.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Arius » 08 Dec 2010, 01:14

Lord Chrusher wrote:
Drinnik wrote:If you can't game with linux, what's the point?


People do use computers for things other than gaming though.

Your words confuse me. I understand the language, but they make no sense.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby MattAn » 08 Dec 2010, 04:50

Note; I think I like being mistaken for LRR's Matt now..

Ahem..

Missie via Twitter wrote:Thanks @riathepinkie! I can kick @MattAndre in the balls pretty well, if I do say so myself... :)


Silly Kathleen, always stepping in and protecting my balls! (That didn't sound right..)

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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Lord Chrusher » 08 Dec 2010, 05:04

Arius wrote:
Lord Chrusher wrote:
Drinnik wrote:If you can't game with linux, what's the point?


People do use computers for things other than gaming though.

Your words confuse me. I understand the language, but they make no sense.


Is 'People do use computers for things other than gaming.' better? Also remember people use computers for porn.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby xdeathknightx » 08 Dec 2010, 09:16

I quite liked it :) And have to agree with Tally her rant earlier in this topic :)
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Master Gunner » 08 Dec 2010, 09:26

Linux is good for porn. Especially if you have more...eclectic...tastes.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby WAYF » 08 Dec 2010, 17:49

Tally wrote:A whole bunch of stuff regarding women's looks/ Lisa Foiles


I'd argue that Lisa Foiles must know that she would get get this sort of reaction by presenting herself like that, and that there are signs that she actually wants to avoid this sort of thing, but her decision to spend a significant chunk of her second video rolling around on the floor caressing shoes* makes that somewhat difficult. So I'm going to agree with you on this one.


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WAYF wrote:(Seriously, how do you keep such a cheerful smile on your face while kneeing someone in the crotch?)

How do you NOT?


True, although it must be difficult as well not to go too far the other way, and burst out laughing.

Re: Matt's acting. My favourite bits were when the computers displayed their respective error screens (especially including the Commodore 64), and when he was reaching out to Linux like he was thinking "Wait, come ba- Hang on a second, you just kneed me in the groin and punched me in the stomach. Why the hell should I bother? Stuff this!"


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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Slack Mesa » 08 Dec 2010, 19:32

Tally wrote:Also, I feel there's a difference between how an attractive woman is presented in Lisa's Top 5 and how attractive women are presented in this and other LRR videos. It's the difference between shouting "Over here over here, look at me, check out my BOOBS, and now I'll wiggle my ass at you, I'm really good at looking hot and I work really hard at it, so keep watching me bounce around!" and saying "Hey guys, I'm gonna do some acting here and say interesting things while looking sexy because, well, I'm a woman and I like to look good - now allow me to share my intellectual talents as well."

I agree, in LRR videos in general, the women's roles are well-rounded (no pun intended). This particular video, though, didn't seem that way. It might be because of the music video format and its lack of dialogue: Kathleen's character went from "close-up of boobs holding up a logo" to "money-grubbing stereotype" to "broken-down prop" with no opportunity for dialogue to build an intellectual counterpoint to the visual portrayal. I suppose one could say Kathleen's performance in this video was a skillful portrayal of an unsympathetic character, which is a legitimate triumph for an actor. But, perhaps because I'm used to seeing the LRR cast playing themselves, my perception of the video wasn't so much "actor portraying a stylized character" as "actor being used as eye candy."
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Master Gunner » 08 Dec 2010, 19:59

Kathleen was playing the anthropomorphic representation of an operating system (for which eye candy is a large component of, at least with macs). It's as simple as that.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Slack Mesa » 08 Dec 2010, 20:43

Master Gunner wrote:Kathleen was playing the anthropomorphic representation of an operating system (for which eye candy is a large component of, at least with macs). It's as simple as that.

You just don't get it, do you? Look, I'll try to explain with an example. Imagine you're Skeletor, okay? This stapler is you. Skeletor. Now imagine that your roommate -- that's this pen -- is in a band, and he wants to write a song about you. This pocket calculator is the song. With me so far? Yeah, it's pretty cool, you're going to have your own calculator. Okay, now imagine that your roommate's band -- let's use this roll of tape to represent the band --plays a concert, and for their final encore they play the song written just for you. Except the song isn't called "Skeletor's Personality" or "Skeletor's Value as a Productive, Creative Member of our Society." No, the song they play is called "Skeletor's Dick." This broken crayon is the dick. And from that day forward, everywhere you go, people say, "Hey, there's that broken crayon," and they don't even notice the stapler.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby DmitriW » 08 Dec 2010, 22:39

Nice Rapidfire sketch reference. :D
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Master Gunner » 08 Dec 2010, 22:54

Made about as much sense as one, so good job!
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Lisra » 09 Dec 2010, 07:25

That way people will never discover that you too might be a dick, because the are busy looking at the crayon. Triumph?
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Slack Mesa » 09 Dec 2010, 08:17

Lisra wrote:Triumph?

I'm making a note here: Huge success.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Emperor Gum » 09 Dec 2010, 11:21

My perception was that Matthew Wiggins, Kathleen de Vere, Tally Heilke (sp?) and Missie Something are actors who were playing parts. Could be wrong.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby the amativeness » 09 Dec 2010, 18:33

That's funny, because my perception was "Who cares? Wes Borg is awesome!"
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby NohbdyImportant » 10 Dec 2010, 20:26

Vigafre wrote:So in short, AppleOS is a prostitute, Windows is afraid of commitment, and Linux is kind of a bitch.


I think you've described them quite well.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby JackSlack » 11 Dec 2010, 03:39

Tapir12 wrote:Here, I thought the content was good and it was well acted, but it felt too much like a regular video. I thought it could have been better with some filters, more dramatic lighting, or more different camera angles. It doesn't have to be flashing, but could be more "atmospheric".


I see your point, but guys like Spike Jonze have played strongly with more realistic aesthetics for music videos before. His video for Praise You is a good example. I don't see it as a huge problem.

My issue: Shouldn't Missie have been wearing a red hat?
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Rikadyn » 12 Dec 2010, 21:50

I figured out what's wrong with this version of the song. The lyric track seems to be seperate from the music and you hear some echoing, like it was being done in an empty room
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby iamafish » 13 Dec 2010, 00:33

Slack Mesa wrote:
Master Gunner wrote:Kathleen was playing the anthropomorphic representation of an operating system (for which eye candy is a large component of, at least with macs). It's as simple as that.

You just don't get it, do you? Look, I'll try to explain with an example. Imagine you're Skeletor, okay? This stapler is you. Skeletor. Now imagine that your roommate -- that's this pen -- is in a band, and he wants to write a song about you. This pocket calculator is the song. With me so far? Yeah, it's pretty cool, you're going to have your own calculator. Okay, now imagine that your roommate's band -- let's use this roll of tape to represent the band --plays a concert, and for their final encore they play the song written just for you. Except the song isn't called "Skeletor's Personality" or "Skeletor's Value as a Productive, Creative Member of our Society." No, the song they play is called "Skeletor's Dick." This broken crayon is the dick. And from that day forward, everywhere you go, people say, "Hey, there's that broken crayon," and they don't even notice the stapler.


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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby soberrover » 15 Dec 2010, 16:57

awesome! Using LRR to make music videos for your songs!
can we expect to see more of this?
What you *really* need to do is to make videos for the Lost Scrolls Of Frosty. Every xmas I educate more people about the Scrolls and everyone loves it. Well, I dont' play it for anyone who's overly religious.
Another favourite is the Cavetech Infommercial. And of course Mom's Coming To My House.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby MotorWaffle » 21 Dec 2010, 15:00

The musical episodes are always my favorites. Great stuff!
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby HardWare » 16 Jan 2011, 22:48

Generally the best operating systems from a technical standpoint are the ones average idiots can't use because all the work put into them has gone into reliability/performance/security, not making it pretty and easy to use, hell, many are console-only.

Linux runs the world but it's not on a lot of desktops, although distributions like Mint and Ubuntu are perfectly sufficient for most people.
MacOS is pretty pointless other than it having a few exclusive pieces of software, and fuck, the hardware prices just to run an OS made largely of free software.
Windows is a mess and proves a single entity making a whole OS is a bad idea, Win7 and 2000 are the only good version of Windows... funny how 98 was a piece of assballs using DOS when NT4 was VASTLY superior and nobody used it.
An extreme example of reliability and security is Minix 3, and operating system than can actually heal itself and is highly secure... but it's a bit slower by design and not easy to use, although the latter is really just a lack of manpower.

I use Windows for games and Linux for work and general stuff... a little gaming too.
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Re: Every OS Sucks

Postby Kag » 18 Jan 2011, 23:14

HardWare wrote:from a technical standpoint


This is the important part. It is more efficient to work with a less stable OS that is significantly more usable than it is to have a console-only OS that never crashes ever, even if your computer no longer exists in the physical plane.

Which is also, for example, why functional programming exists.

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