Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad.

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Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad.

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Postby King Kool » 04 Nov 2009, 08:56

Generally, things like that don't fly in America for long. Let's hope this one dies an ignominious death.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaks. It's bad. Very bad.

Postby AgentGray » 04 Nov 2009, 08:59

if it's the "whole world" adopting the US system... which i doubt... it doesn't seem that bad. US Copyright laws are a bit...aggressive, but nothing compared to some EU nations.

However, I think the whole thing is bogus. The world's copyright laws are conflicted and scattered for a reason. They're not going to suddenly come to an agreement behind closed doors and not have anyone, at all, find out what's going on.

If it goes into affect... fight it. Until there's actual evidence of it being acted on, I'm assuming it's pretty language that won't actually change anything.
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Postby Master Gunner » 04 Nov 2009, 09:09

I hope you're right and this turns out to be nothing. It could be very bad otherwise.
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Postby goat » 04 Nov 2009, 10:47

eh, probably nothing. If it is something, though, rest assured there will be erm.... "vocal"... protests.

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Postby Evil Jim » 04 Nov 2009, 11:42

Obama is in Madison for the next few hours. Should I go give him a talking to?
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Postby Master Gunner » 04 Nov 2009, 12:02

I don't see anything that could possibly go wrong with that....
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Postby Brad » 04 Nov 2009, 12:22

The whole "The whole world must comply to American style..." bit strikes me a bit fake. Bush tried saying that to Harper when this shit came out last time, and our prime minister basically spent his time when Bush was in office balls deep and choking on it to do whatever Dubya wanted. Didn't happen then. I don't believe the article to be honest - it doesn't sound like Obama, and as much as America may think it runs the world it neither has the capability or, I would think inclination to impose such a decree.
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Postby Arius » 04 Nov 2009, 13:16

We do run the world... When China gives us money to do so. And when the UN agrees with our views. And when it doesn't go outside of our (or middle eastern) borders.

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Postby Keith K » 04 Nov 2009, 14:09

"That the whole world must adopt US-style..."

and then I broke out in hysterical laughter.
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Postby Genghis Ares » 04 Nov 2009, 14:12

Arius wrote:We do run the world... When China gives us money to do so. And when the UN agrees with our views. And when it doesn't go outside of our (or middle eastern) borders.

See?


You make it sound like the UN actually does stuff. Lol.
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Postby Arius » 04 Nov 2009, 14:22

It's not that they don't do anything. It's that they never manage to fix anything.
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Postby Sachiel » 04 Nov 2009, 20:22

For a bit more detail (and a Canadian perspective) check out http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/4510/125/
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Postby empath » 04 Nov 2009, 20:42

The "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement" has a stowaway; what has been leaked has NOTHING to do with stopping counterfeiting. :(

from Michael Geist's blog mentioned by Sachiel:

These provisions involve copyright policy as no reasonable definition of counterfeiting would include these kinds of provisions.


Sigh. At best, it's scaremongering by 'our' side.
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Postby Dave-O_Boy » 04 Nov 2009, 22:18

It seems like nonsense.
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Postby Sachiel » 05 Nov 2009, 07:27

Oh, I'm fully prepared for this to be revealed as fake. But if it is real, it is terrifying. It ignores the core tenet of the American legal system: that you are innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW.
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Postby Master Gunner » 05 Nov 2009, 11:18

Yeah, that went out the window a LOOOOOOONG time ago.
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