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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby iamafish » 04 Nov 2009, 15:04

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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Vigafre » 04 Nov 2009, 15:10

Master Gunner wrote:Also, a lot of people that use profanity (see: your local high school and surrounding area) actually don't know how to use language and profanity properly. They just drop random swear-words like "fuck" or "shit" in without regard to meaning or what they actually want to say.

This is definitely true. I've heard F-bombs for every part of speech.

All in the same sentence.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Matt » 04 Nov 2009, 15:14

THIS FUCKING FUCK-TWAT WILL FUCK ANY FUCKING FUCKER THAT BREATHES, FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Arius » 04 Nov 2009, 15:15

He even capitalised the 'm'

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q1g8HAAmsA
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Vigafre » 04 Nov 2009, 15:15

Must have caps locked the sentence.


Does that mean he was being sarcastic?
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby 2stepz » 04 Nov 2009, 15:17

I want to know why "crap" isn't a curse word (for most people) but "shit" is. They are both four letter words for fecal matter. What's the difference?
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Matt » 04 Nov 2009, 15:19

my job duties require that I have the caps lock on for most of the day, and if I forget to take it off, you get CAPS-MATT.

most of the time I'll delete it and re-write it if I notice, other times I'm too lazy. Or it's funny to leave it.

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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Arius » 04 Nov 2009, 15:21

So, you work in an office, a lot of the people there are women, and you use a lot of caps.

Are you a professional internet troll?
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Vigafre » 04 Nov 2009, 15:22

2stepz wrote:I want to know why "crap" isn't a curse word (for most people) but "shit" is. They are both four letter words for fecal matter. What's the difference?

I honestly don't know why, but I grew up on the notion that "crap", "dang", "darn", "heck", "butt", and, to a lesser degree, "screw" were okay.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Dr. Atrocity » 04 Nov 2009, 15:22

Arius wrote:So, you work in an office, a lot of the people there are women, and you use a lot of caps.

Are you a professional internet troll?


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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Matt » 04 Nov 2009, 15:22

yes.

no, I use caps, because much of my job currently involves making notes in the subject lines of emails and sorting them into the appropriate folder.

I use caps so the notes are clearly distinguished from the subject lines.

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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby empath » 04 Nov 2009, 15:54

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crap%5B2%5D

"Crap" originally meant 'residue from rendered fat', while "shit" always meant...um, yeah.

Crap is often used to denote 'junk' or 'garbage' or even just 'unwanted things or stuff':

"We can renovate this abandoned building as soon as we get all that crap out of the rooms."

"*beep* Um, honey? Yeah, I saw you fondling that girl at the dance club last night. That's it; we're through. You'd better stop by my apartment to get your crap before I pitch it out into the street."

AND it can also mean 'feces'. "Excuse me, I gotta go take a crap."

Whereas 'shit' IS often used to refer to....yeah. I know; surprising, isn't it? (regardless of Mr.Carlin's amusing assertion)

In addition, 'shit' is also often used to refer to 'stuff':
"C'mon, let's hit the beach!"
"Just a sec, I gotta get my shit."

Now as to WHY the former is considered 'fine' while the latter isn't, I can't say anything more than "because we all reach an unconscious consensus that they are to be considered like that. *shrug*


For the record, I don't consider either to be a 'curse word' until they're used as expletives.

"Honey? I'm pregnant."
"SHIT!"

"Joanie? We're gonna have to lay you off."
"Aw, crap!"

Then, either of them qualifies when used thusly. I may consider 'shit' to be more severe than 'crap' in non-cursing statement use, but...
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby VanHelsing23 » 04 Nov 2009, 16:01

In the words of Penn Jillette, "These people don't care about the package, just the gift wrap."
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Darkobra » 04 Nov 2009, 17:35

I'm surprised nobody's posted the Monty Python sketch yet. I can't remember the name of it to find it but I'm sure someone knows which one.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Master Gunner » 04 Nov 2009, 18:04

The man who is alternatively rude and polite?
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Vash2nddonuts » 04 Nov 2009, 18:22

One of my favorite quotes from Boondock Saints:

"Fuckin'- What the fuckin'. Fuck. Who the fuck fucked this fucking... How did you two fucking fucks...FUCK!"
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Darkobra » 04 Nov 2009, 18:48

It was one explaining the different uses of the word "fuck" and how it can be used in almost every word in a sentence. "Fuck the fucking fuckers!"
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Dr. Atrocity » 04 Nov 2009, 18:57

I highly doubt that was Monty Python if you're refferring to what I think.

Remember that at the time Mary Whitehouse was culturally relevant and a pretty formidable moral crusader; Life of Brian was widely banned for depicting Jesus. How do you think they'd get away with a sketch concering the word "fuck"?
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Pilot Bush » 04 Nov 2009, 18:59

It shouldn't be a question if the videos have profanity.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby zfubarz » 04 Nov 2009, 19:48

I like how this thread turned out.

I was reffering to the very specifec case of f*ck and sh*t. The seem pointless. Relics from other forums I guess.

I myself find figuring out more creative profanity enjoyable as well, but the difference between donkey raping shit eater and shithead to be mostly a matter of time available.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Matt » 04 Nov 2009, 19:55

Yeah, but "ass-molesting spunk bubbler" just rolls off the tongue so much more smoothly.

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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby AlexanderDitto » 04 Nov 2009, 20:02

I'm surprised I haven't contributed to this!

When I was younger, I was vehemently against swearing. It just seemed so... pedestrian. There are much more colorful, interesting ways of expressing anger/outrage/confusion/pain, and I'd rather hear them. I never used to swear.

Now that I'm older, I fear I've been exposed to so much swearing that it's easy for me to slip into it myself. I don't care for it, though I do see that there's merit to swear words when they're used sparingly, as if not overused, they're very powerful. I don't like when they're overused, though. They just become dilute, and then the swearing goes from being forceful to annoying, offensive, or stupid, depending on who's speaking.

I also approve of swearing when it comes from an unexpected source, as has been covered in the thread. I really still do prefer interesting swears, instead of the mundane ones we all know. One of the many reasons why I love Stephen Fry's twitter feed. You get some really interesting epithets....

Also this is relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_osQvkeNRM

I also really hate having to read or quote something that has a lot of swear words in it. It's just... it highlights how unusual it is for me to swear, and makes me sound awkward.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby empath » 04 Nov 2009, 20:21

Pilot Bush wrote:It shouldn't be a question if the videos have profanity.


Good, because Monty Python's Flying Circus didn't HAVE profanity, typically. Cleese may have been "the very first person ever to say 'shit' on British television" (per his eulogy of Graham Chapman - I can't remember the sketch off-hand), but that would have been the exception, not the rule. Nudity? Sure. Gratuitous gore and violence? Yep, but not much worse than "You vacuous, toffee-nosed, malodorous pervert!" for foul language.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Evil Jim » 05 Nov 2009, 00:08

Vigafre wrote:Would you consider goddammit in vain as long as it's not capitalized?

I consider "goddammit" a prayer. Hey god! Damn that for me.

I don't know what the big hangup is about the word "cunt." As far as profanity goes, "Cunt" = Woman & "Cock" or "Dick" = Man.

Anyway, as far as "fuck" goes, we all know it's just the Felonious Use of Carnal Knowledge.
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Re: SWEARING!!!! a question

Postby Allen! » 05 Nov 2009, 01:07

I am a volatile person, and use volatile language. Thus, fuck you.
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