Spidey 4 is No More!
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What? Raimi wasn't a fan of Venom. He admitted that he never liked Venom or the idea of symbiotes, which is why he didn't want it in the movie. Your sentence doesn't make much sense.
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I thought that was a cover at Comic-Con for him revealing him later.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong.
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So would it be safe to say that this reboot is basically going to end up being Spiderman: the Dark Arachnid?
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reboot was a great show
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Hmm.. grit and edge. Sounds like they want to reboot it into the Dark Knight.
Walk in like DeNiro, and leave like Brando.
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I think we agree on that Bananafish. I think we'd prefer to see Reboot before a Spidey reboot.
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When i was a kid I bought a spidey web canister and it didn't work so i hate spiderman
i'd be all for a spiderman movie set in WWII though, spiderman fighting nazis would be hilarious.
e: I DONT CARE if it's not canon, it'd be awesome.
i'd be all for a spiderman movie set in WWII though, spiderman fighting nazis would be hilarious.
e: I DONT CARE if it's not canon, it'd be awesome.
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I was entertained by Spiderman 3, though I agree it wasn't up to par with the other two films.
However, if Raimi isn't going to do a 4th film, then I don't see the point in doing another Spiderman film so soon if it's just going to be a remake from scratch. It's way too early after the last film to do that in my opinion. And frankly, I'm kind of sick of seeing/hearing/reading the same god damn origin of Spiderman story. I'd rather see an established Spiderman go up against interesting villains like Shocker, Scorpion, or Carnage, or even to team up with other Marvel super heroes. I don't want to see the same old Spiderman vs. Green Goblin shit all over again. Sam Raimi already made that film and it can't be beat.
However, if Raimi isn't going to do a 4th film, then I don't see the point in doing another Spiderman film so soon if it's just going to be a remake from scratch. It's way too early after the last film to do that in my opinion. And frankly, I'm kind of sick of seeing/hearing/reading the same god damn origin of Spiderman story. I'd rather see an established Spiderman go up against interesting villains like Shocker, Scorpion, or Carnage, or even to team up with other Marvel super heroes. I don't want to see the same old Spiderman vs. Green Goblin shit all over again. Sam Raimi already made that film and it can't be beat.
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My spidey web cannisters worked awesomely. But they did run out too quickly. First spidey takes our money for ill working cannisters, then he takes our money with 3 crappy films with some of the worst acting o all time. DAMN YOU SPIDERMAN!!
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Evil Dead 4
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iEatNinjaZ wrote:Evil Dead 4
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It wouldnt live up, look at Indiana jones 4, the new Star Wars trilogy.
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They're rebooting the frigging series already??? Hollywood, for once in your frigging life DO SOMETHING ORIGINAL! Gads.
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Trymantha wrote:iEatNinjaZ wrote:Evil Dead 4
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It wouldnt live up, look at Indiana jones 4, the new Star Wars trilogy.
Good thing George Lucas will not be working on this.
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See I didn't think Spiderman 3 was that bad. Sorry to buck the trend. Compared to say The Fantastic Four films Spiderman 3 was okay. Yeah it was a little ploddy and overly-bad guyed and the whole emo thing was kind of stupid, but the action scenes were okay and plentiful (thanks to the abundance of bad guys) and all in all wasnt that horrendous.
Not that I'm mourning Spiderman 4. There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
Not that I'm mourning Spiderman 4. There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
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The saddest part in all of this is that Bruce Campbell won't be in Spider-man, then. And that's a fucking tragedy.
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It might just be a reboot in the sense that The Incredible (and vastly less suckworthy than Ang Lee's piece of crap) Hulk was a reboot: giving the character a slightly different origin but not just making a film of the new origin story. Although I think people might be less happy about changing Spidey's background too much.
Anyway, which of the four poll options corresponds to "Never mind, I wasn't going to watch it anyway unless there was nothing better on telly one day"?
Anyway, which of the four poll options corresponds to "Never mind, I wasn't going to watch it anyway unless there was nothing better on telly one day"?
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I certainly hope not. Ang Lee's Hulk was a masterpiece. The Incredible Hulk was a sea of mediocrity. I'd expect the same to happen with Spider-Man.
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Machalllewis wrote:There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
I'd say there is one possible exception, being the Harry Potter series, but as it is following a pre-written timeline and canon (each movie follows exactly one book), I don't know if you can really say that each movie is a sequel or prequel to another.
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You could also try to arge Star Wars Episode IV, but it really doesn't count.
Also, Ang Lee's Hulk blew goats.
Also, Ang Lee's Hulk blew goats.
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tak197 wrote:Machalllewis wrote:There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
I'd say there is one possible exception, being the Harry Potter series, but as it is following a pre-written timeline and canon (each movie follows exactly one book), I don't know if you can really say that each movie is a sequel or prequel to another.
Bond?
Star Trek?
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Sorry Matt, the correct answer was "Zattoichi", thanks for playing and good night everyone. Remember to have your pets spayed and neutered.
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Matt wrote:tak197 wrote:Machalllewis wrote:There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
I'd say there is one possible exception, being the Harry Potter series, but as it is following a pre-written timeline and canon (each movie follows exactly one book), I don't know if you can really say that each movie is a sequel or prequel to another.
Bond?
Star Trek?
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Because all of the Star Trek films were just awesome? They re-booted the series for a reason.
Bond falls under the pre-written clause like Harry Potter.
I'm suprised nobody mentioned Die Hard. I was all prepared to argue that Die Hard 4 didn't count as a Die Hard film.
Any road, yes it was a sweeping statement. I'm sure that there are exceptions but you gotta agree by the time a fourth film has come out its normally so wildly different from the original that its more frustrating than satisfying. What with cast and crew changes and everything.
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Not all of Star Trek was awesome, but you said up to the fourth movie. The first wasn't horrible, just badly paced and suffered from major problems with the executives and the effects company. The second was one of the best films ever, the third wasn't bad, it just couldn't live up to its predecessor, and the fourth was great. So it did make it to the fourth installment before becoming terrible or changing to a huge degree. It wasn't until Insurrection/Nemesis (the NINTH and TENTH installments) before requiring a reboot.
While Bond movies borrow titles and sometimes the general plot of the books/short stories, they hardly fall under the pre-written clause, as they are largely original work (and even if they were pre-written, 22 films is still a massive achievement).
While Bond movies borrow titles and sometimes the general plot of the books/short stories, they hardly fall under the pre-written clause, as they are largely original work (and even if they were pre-written, 22 films is still a massive achievement).
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Master Gunner wrote:Not all of Star Trek was awesome, but you said up to the fourth movie. The first wasn't horrible, just badly paced and suffered from major problems with the executives and the effects company. The second was one of the best films ever, the third wasn't bad, it just couldn't live up to its predecessor, and the fourth was great. So it did make it to the fourth installment before becoming terrible or changing to a huge degree. It wasn't until Insurrection/Nemesis (the NINTH and TENTH installments) before requiring a reboot.
While Bond movies borrow titles and sometimes the general plot of the books/short stories, they hardly fall under the pre-written clause, as they are largely original work (and even if they were pre-written, 22 films is still a massive achievement).
As I noted above Captain Pedantic, it was a sweeping statement and there would naturally be exceptions.
However I would count the whole change of the entire cast thing to the Next Generation as a fairly huge change so its more like the SIXTH movie that it made it to without a huge change.
In addition the FIFTH movie was awarded a Golden Razzie for the worst film of 1989 so I guess they only really managed to beat the rule by one film.
So well done them I guess. This is all naturally if we accept your original points regarding the first film (I seem to recall it being described as a critical failure).
As far as the Bonds are concerned I would hardly say that Dr No and Die Another Day (I havent actually seen the most recent two Bonds) can really be considered to be similar to one another in anyway. The only similarity in fact is just the name.
But to re-iterate I did say that I was making a sweeping statement and you have to agree with me that whenever you hear about the fourth iteration of a series is coming out do you really expect it to be as good as the original?
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Matt wrote:tak197 wrote:Machalllewis wrote:There is no film which survives into the fourth installment of a series without changing to some huge degree (Becoming terrible is a change).
I'd say there is one possible exception, being the Harry Potter series, but as it is following a pre-written timeline and canon (each movie follows exactly one book), I don't know if you can really say that each movie is a sequel or prequel to another.
Bond?
Star Trek?
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and honestly I liked Die Hard 4.0 as a part of the series(the title I prefer).
And what about the DEAD series? although i guess the third kind of sucks...
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