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What level are you?

Postby DRog » 23 Jan 2010, 18:52

I just read a really great article on the Escapist, and it got me thinking. How would levels be measured in real life? I can think of a few, just simple things like years alive, but I think that everyone together can make a better definition of experience. There's also the question of skills, like strength, agility or endurance, to name the few I've thought of. You could have every 5 pounds you can lift be a point in strength, every 10 seconds faster in a mile be a point in agility, and however long you can do something, like running however many miles/kilometers be a point in endurance. Any other thoughts?

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Re: What level are you?

Postby TomBrend » 23 Jan 2010, 20:39

http://xkcd.com/189/

I think that comic was a much more succinct version of the same concept.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 23 Jan 2010, 20:48

I once made an Excel spreadsheet that took physical characteristics and backwards engineered them into Dungeons & Dragons statistics, based on what a person could do if they had a given statistic compared to the average human norm of 10 in all stats.

For example, there's a table in 3.5 that relates each individual point of Str to how much weight you can lift above your head. Int I considered to be your IQ score over 10, rounding down (Because rounding up could mean an unfair bonus improvement), given that the average human has a 10 Int and the average IQ score is 100.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby TomBrend » 23 Jan 2010, 21:04

It'd be pretty tough to do wisdom... it's kind of difficult to explain the difference between intelligence and wisdom to average non-gamers, and I can't think of a single way to measure it.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Dave-O_Boy » 23 Jan 2010, 21:17

I, myself, live in an RPG that has evolved beyond a leveling system. However I'm am stuck on a grid. Most embarrassing.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby DRog » 23 Jan 2010, 22:11

I think wisdom may have to be a function of age and intelligence. Everybody always has the wise man be old anyway, so it could be something like age/10 plus int/2. Of course, that's not a perfect measure, but I think it works fairly well.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Alja-Markir » 23 Jan 2010, 23:05

In terms of known universal potentials, I'm Level Six of a maximum of nine.

Which doesn't sound nearly as impressive as my character level in AdventureQuest of 78.

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Re: What level are you?

Postby Cybren » 23 Jan 2010, 23:07

I'm an eleventh level vice president
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Arius » 23 Jan 2010, 23:09

I put all my physical points into dexterity.

So, my strength and endurance stats are pretty low.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Evil Jim » 23 Jan 2010, 23:57

My stats are Evil Jim: 100.

I have 100% of the capabilities & abilities of Evil Jim. Few in the world can say that.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby VanHelsing23 » 24 Jan 2010, 00:02

I just need to kill a few more rapists and I'll level-up. You can level-up in tons of ways: Learn a new language; Help an old lady cross the road; successfully complete a trap-check. What I'm saying is, everyone is S.P.E.C.I.A.L in their own way(See what I did there?).
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Evil Jim » 24 Jan 2010, 00:20

You are not a unique or beautiful snowflake.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby VanHelsing23 » 24 Jan 2010, 00:57

Oh no. You have crushed my spirit.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby kkief02 » 24 Jan 2010, 01:00

Evil Jim wrote:You are not a unique or beautiful snowflake.

Dear Evil Jim:

<3

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Re: What level are you?

Postby Evil Jim » 24 Jan 2010, 01:16

Would you <3 me more if I actually got the line correct?

"You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake."
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Re: What level are you?

Postby kkief02 » 24 Jan 2010, 01:57

Evil Jim wrote:Would you <3 me more if I actually got the line correct?

"You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake."

It was the thought that counted. But for the extra effort you get extra <3.

<3<3<3

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Re: What level are you?

Postby Metcarfre » 24 Jan 2010, 12:09

At my peak I was only 5.10b, so not very high at all.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby epocalypse » 24 Jan 2010, 21:43

DRog wrote:I think wisdom may have to be a function of age and intelligence. Everybody always has the wise man be old anyway, so it could be something like age/10 plus int/2. Of course, that's not a perfect measure, but I think it works fairly well.


I think wisdom is actually the result of education and successful trial and error. The best definition I've heard of it is the successful survival of stupidity.

As for my levels, my puzzle solving, creativity, fiction consumption, and dexterity points are highest, followed closely by my art skills and pain endurance (emotional lower than physical) Those skills are the closest to maxxed out. My strength is below average, though I have a built in boost on lower body (I've never done serious weight training in my life, but am consistently able leg press about two times my body weight, which makes sense considering my legs are about thirty inches around at their widest point), I am above average in flexibility for a man of my weight and age, particularly considering that I don't work out barely at all, with a built in boost in upper body, as I'm double jointed in my shoulders, and have the ability to rotate them 360 degrees, giving me a naturally high score in escaping skills, and the ability to get out of a straight jacket. My worst areas are in dealing with nature (i'm allergic to many flora and fauna) non swimming aerobic endurance (asthmatic) and speed (ironically, considering the asthma, I'm a short, stout and muscle built guy with a body built for endurance, which is why, when swimming, where my asthma isn't an issue, and in climbing and free running, which can be done anaerobically, allowing myself to catch my breath while I figure out the next obstacle, I have a very long endurance and ability), maintaining long romantic relationships, particularly uncomplicated ones, weight, which should be about 30lbs less, and attention span. I'd say that out of a possible 100 levels, where 100 would be my perfectly idealized version of myself, I'm at about a 56.

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Re: What level are you?

Postby Alja-Markir » 24 Jan 2010, 21:51

Wisdom, in my mind at least, is indeed experience based. Although it doesn't have to be direct influence, in that you can glean knowledge and wisdom from other sources, like text or other records.

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Re: What level are you?

Postby operagirl95 » 25 Jan 2010, 05:14

To me, wisdom and knowledge are two entirely different things. Wisdom is a product of how you (personally) interpret/react to/handle life, which is something a book cannot teach. Both are important to be successful. I've worked with many PhD's who had no wisdom at all.

tl;dr just putting my random $0.02 in.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Alja-Markir » 25 Jan 2010, 07:32

Knowledge is the information you have collected.
Intelligence is your ability to learn.
Wisdom is your ability to put knowledge to good use.

*scratches his head*

Roughly speaking. Your results may vary.

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Re: What level are you?

Postby operagirl95 » 25 Jan 2010, 07:51

Alja-Markir wrote:Knowledge is the information you have collected.
Intelligence is your ability to learn.
Wisdom is your ability to put knowledge to good use.

*scratches his head*

Roughly speaking. Your results may vary.

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yeah, that.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby Whitmore » 25 Jan 2010, 08:57

I'm a level 82 Tired Mother-Fucker.

Only in this game, to win you have to try and work off your levels by sleeping.

That makes no sense, I'm going to bed.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby DRog » 25 Jan 2010, 14:47

Holy crap epocalypse, that was really long, but a pretty good way of saying it. Out of an idealistic 100, I think because of only a few things I'm about an 80. I could be better in a few areas, but I feel like I'm pretty well off at this point in my life.
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Re: What level are you?

Postby SprintToTheFinish » 08 Feb 2010, 22:01

I'm defiantly going to start working on improving my stats, now that I have actual motivation. If I can get 14+ in all stats, I will go start exploring dungeons much more often.

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