The Sex Thread

[The Jester]

Nor do I, but I've just accepted that everyone finds different things attractive and so I don't have a desire to know what's attractive about a guy.

Not that I'm not curious, I just know that what one girl of gay guy says isn't going to be the same, necesarily, as what the next one says.

[Laurnil]

Okay....So the consensus seems to be that facials are degrading and no one likes them...Why are they featured so often in porn?

well there's your answer.

Pornography in general is ultimately about domination and the objectification of women as simple the means for males of gaining pleasure. In short portable holes. Degrading and dehumanising the women by making them do sexual acts which are, by their very nature, degrading is all part of the process.

Which is why lots of pornography makes me very uncomfortable, especially the ones with men in - although that also has something to do with the fact that i find males in general completely unappealing.

Actually there's an interesting question; what makes men attractive? I've never been able to look at a guy and say whether he was attractive or not (beyond the obvious). I don't get what's so appealing about the male body.

Porn: my point was that people buy the porn with facials in it. If people don't like it, then it wouldn't sell, would it? Also, there is a branch of porn that proclaims itself feminist and there are feminist theories that view the sex trades as not necessarily degrading to women, but that men make it degrading. There are different views and to be honest, I like porn. Not all of it, but I like to watch it. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying its not a cut and dry situation.

Attractiveness of males: I couldn't tell you specifically what I like about guys (mostly because I like such a wide range - same with women), but I'll look or talk to a guy and a shiver will run up through my body and I'll feel this primal urge to very bad things to him. Sometimes it has nothing to do with looks, meaning that I'll be talking with a guy and he'll say something so fantastic that I want to jump in his lap and break him in. But, I don't, because its not socially appropriate to do such things.

[iamafish]

having said that about porn, i do still watch and enjoy it. I was also making sweeping generalisation about a wide and diverse genre, so my comments don't apply to every example.

[The Jester]

I don't think I'd take very well to anybody's attempts to 'break me in'. Not from the way it sounds, anyway. I'd probably get pretty pissed.

Of course, if I were to get that kind of buzz when interacting with someone (and I'd have to be in a relationship with them) I think the best I could manage in terms of self control is to get us to somewhere vaguely private and then let go. ;D

[Laurnil]

breaking a man in: riding him all night long like he was a wild mustang.

[TomBrend]

That sounds like something I want.

[Whitmore]

So lately guys, I have been having a bit of an issue regarding myself.

Loving myself, as it were.

About half of the times I masturbate, I ejaculate in the end, but don't actually achieve orgasm. It's very disappointing.

My sessions are a decent length (I like to make time for it). But only half of them have the rush at the end.

I mean, in the times when I don't actually climax, but do ejaculate, it's not like I can keep going, because that damn refractory period kicks in, and I'm out of the game for a while.

It's frustrating D:<

[empath]

Now that's interesting, sometimes I tend to have the opposite well, situation more than a problem; orgasm without ejaculation (or possibly internal ejaculation).

I remember reading about a sect of monks (those same Taoists?) that manage to consciously redirect ejaculation into the bladder instead of out through the urethra. My thought at the time was "OW."

...but then there'll be those times when the muscles start spasming, and the jaw clenches, and the top of the head bursts apart and the consciousness streams out into the universe and dwells on a higher plane for what seems like a few thousand years, but is just a couple of seconds or so, and then when 'coming down' (heh) the body tells the mind "Yeah, that was a great workout and all, but...we...well, we didn't..."

Despite what I said, upon further reflection, I begin to doubt that it's a case of 'redirected internal ejaculation', because I imagine I'd still feel SOMETHING, and...well...urination would feel different for a while, wouldn't it?

But then, I haven't really found out much about this, and haven't discussed it with many people, so I'm a little in the dark about this...

[Whitmore]

See, now you're just making me jealous.

[Master Gunner]

First called bullshit on it, then looked it up. "Retrograde ejaculation" is when the sphincters controlling what flows out when don't completely close, allowing some or all of the semen to go up into the bladder instead of out the penis. It should give your urine a milky colouring afterwards, and is considered a fertility problem affecting up to 3% of men.

[Laurnil]

Now that's interesting, sometimes I tend to have the opposite well, situation more than a problem; orgasm without ejaculation (or possibly internal ejaculation).

I remember reading about a sect of monks (those same Taoists?) that manage to consciously redirect ejaculation into the bladder instead of out through the urethra. My thought at the time was "OW."

...but then there'll be those times when the muscles start spasming, and the jaw clenches, and the top of the head bursts apart and the consciousness streams out into the universe and dwells on a higher plane for what seems like a few thousand years, but is just a couple of seconds or so, and then when 'coming down' (heh) the body tells the mind "Yeah, that was a great workout and all, but...we...well, we didn't..."

Despite what I said, upon further reflection, I begin to doubt that it's a case of 'redirected internal ejaculation', because I imagine I'd still feel SOMETHING, and...well...urination would feel different for a while, wouldn't it?

But then, I haven't really found out much about this, and haven't discussed it with many people, so I'm a little in the dark about this...

I'd say you need to talk to a doctor, just in case.

So lately guys, I have been having a bit of an issue regarding myself.

Loving myself, as it were.

About half of the times I masturbate, I ejaculate in the end, but don't actually achieve orgasm. It's very disappointing.

My sessions are a decent length (I like to make time for it). But only half of them have the rush at the end.

I mean, in the times when I don't actually climax, but do ejaculate, it's not like I can keep going, because that damn refractory period kicks in, and I'm out of the game for a while.

It's frustrating D:<

How often do you masturbate?

[Whitmore]

3-4 times a week?

[Smidge]

3-4 times a week?

Have you tried taking a break from it for a few weeks?

[Whitmore]

Yes

[TomBrend]

Have you tried "pregaming" a little? To shamelessly plug my site, go to *NSFW* www.tt jab.com *NSFW* before you start, get your engine going. Then watch good porn and go slow and tender.

[Elomin Sha]

Slow and tender, like throwing a puppy into a meat grinder. OH YEAH!

[The Jester]

I'm a little confused here.. What's the difference between ejaculating and orgasming for a guy? I was under the impression they were pretty much the same thing, but I guess that assumption was wrong?

Also, and I know I'm late replying, but playing all night is not something I could have a problem with (unless I needed to be up in the morning.. but even then there'd be times when I just wouldn't care ;D) but the 'breaking' part.. that's what I have a problem with. I have associations with the word and what it implies that make me very angry.

[Master Gunner]

Ejaculation is when sperm is released from the testes, joins with seminal fluids, and flows out through the penis.

Orgasm refers to the chemical reactions in the brain that create an intense moment of euphoria in response to sexual acts.

In a guy, they generally coincide, but obviously from the above, that is not always the case.

[Whitmore]

It's very much not.

[aeric90]

I've had this happen twice, though never during masturbation only during sex... which was kind of embarasing. It was like "Dude... I think I just came." to which the answer was in both cases, "What do you mean, you think?"

I think it is possible to ejacluate without experiencing an orgasm, so I know how you feel. Having it happen that often is strange though.

[aeric90]

I don't get what's so appealing about the male body.

I could explain what I find attractive about men but it wouldn't make you get it anymore than you could explain what's appealing about a woman to you. I'm also pretty sure that not everything you find attractive about a woman would necessarily appeal to all other straight men in general. It's nice that our preferences are about as varied as we are.

[empath]

First called bullshit on it, then looked it up. "Retrograde ejaculation" is when the sphincters controlling what flows out when don't completely close, allowing some or all of the semen to go up into the bladder instead of out the penis. It should give your urine a milky colouring afterwards, and is considered a fertility problem affecting up to 3% of men.

"Retrograde ejaculation"

THAT'S why I wasn't finding anything in my (admittedly cursory) research!

3%, huh? I'm already in smaller niches for other quirks, I can accept this. It doesn't happen all that often, and combined with the 'mark this on the calendar' frequency of my sex drive, I'm not overly concerned about it. *shrug* I'll check the toilet for the next day or so after if/when it next happens.

[Laurnil]

I'm a little confused here.. What's the difference between ejaculating and orgasming for a guy? I was under the impression they were pretty much the same thing, but I guess that assumption was wrong?

Also, and I know I'm late replying, but playing all night is not something I could have a problem with (unless I needed to be up in the morning.. but even then there'd be times when I just wouldn't care ;D) but the 'breaking' part.. that's what I have a problem with. I have associations with the word and what it implies that make me very angry.

I can see where you might disagree with that phrasing, buts all it was, a turn of phrase. Also, you might now know this, but every partner you are with can change your performance. Everybody likes different things and knows different techniques and it takes time for each other to adapt to the styles of the other and develop a mutually effective style. By my wording, I simply meant this process.

[The Jester]

Right, OK, gotcah. I understand that it'll allways take a while to get used to eachother, and I guess I kinda got that's what you meant. Sorry to have over-reacted.

[Elomin Sha]

How many of you know that ejaculating was once used to mean exclamation? ONe of the few times I did a double take while reading a book. Another time was when I was reading a book by DAvid Hume with the word negro.