tak197 wrote:Arius wrote:... I would like to see two things: A game and a movie with a homosexual lead character. But done in a way where it's just a part of their personality.
Most movies with gay characters focus on them being gay as if it should be some huge thing. They never just have a casually gay lead. ...
It can't be treated as "a normal thing" in the movies until it's treated as a normal thing by society, and unfortunately, that's a long ways off still. But I agree, the media makes a MUCH bigger about gays than it needs to, but only when it's "scandalizing". I mean look at Clay Aiken and Ricky Martin. Was it shocking that they came out? No. It wasn't a big deal when NPH came out (can I say I'd hit that faster than I'd hit Ryan Reynolds?) but that's because he did it on his own terms.
I agree with this. Being gay... isn't a big thing! I don't know. It's very frustrating that it's made out to be a huge thing, and everyone views it in a certain way.
Then again, it's kind of a difficult line to walk. If a character is gay, and it's reflected in their personality, people will accuse you of pandering to gay stereotypes. If a character is gay, and doesn't "act" gay (whatever the heck THAT means), people just assume the character is ACTING straight (see also:
Straight Gay. Warning! That's a TV Tropes link right there). There's just an implicit assumption that if someone isn't camp, they're straight.
Which is why I admire Neil Patrick Harris. He's not camp, he's not "straight acting," he's just...
himself.The Jester wrote:I actually rememer Alexander mentioning the fact that he's gay maybe a year or so ago, so I wasn't surprised. He must have mentioned it at some point because it's not an assumption I make on my own..
Eh, I definitely wouldn't have just come out and said it a year ago. I probably just implied it. I've never really been vehement at denying it, and I made no secret of the fact that, regardless of my own sexuality, I'm pretty open about supporting gay rights.
The Jester wrote:Personally I hate it when parents are all "nudge nudge wink wink" with their kids, to the extent that I would want to do whatever I could to make them STFU. Still, I can't recommend coming out to you for that reason because it's a bit dumb and confrontational.
However, I would still recommend coming out to them anyway, because they're your parents and they'll still love you anyway. That's what they're there for.
It may take them a while to come around to the idea, but they will (I'm assuming here that they're not the kind of right wing christian extremist nutters that'd disown you for coming out
). Either way, good luck with whatever you decide!
That last part? The assumption? Yeaaaaah.... Did I ever tell you guys the story about how my mother randomly espoused that if she found out I were gay she would cut my testicles off? No? Yes, that happened.
Honestly there's really no reason for me to tell them. They'd be upset, I'd get no gratification out of it. I doubt it would even stop the subtle push to get married with someone and have teh babbys. In fact, it might
intensify it. Ugh.
I went through enough grief telling them I was an atheist, which they
still don't accept.
I do think I'll try to muster up the courage to tell my friend, though.
Arius wrote:I'm still pretty bad at reading gay people.
Ditto, thought he was just a serial killer.
Hahahahaha.
Doesn't mean I'm not, chuckles.
No but seriously what?
Master Gunner wrote:Wow, my mind.....completely blown. The last few pages have certainly helped wake me up this morning. I had no idea about any of this (except for Sarah, didn't you come out hear years ago?). I'm going to have to take a while to come to terms, I just thought Tak and Ditto were awesome, this changes everything!
Well, not everything. But my mind is still blown.
I can't still be awesome?
Not like it changes anything! I'm still the strangely-dressed stuffy scientist
serial killer you all know and love! Except, you'll have to reclassify me as more... Alan Turing than Nikola Tesla. Actually somewhere between those two.
