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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 17 Sep 2011, 17:01

Would be interesting to see Jack's reaction to Smith...
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Dave-O_Boy » 17 Sep 2011, 17:24

Add Jack to the list of characters I'd like to see come back into the main series (also The Face of Bo).

I really enjoy this episode. Great character development.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Gordon Fearman » 17 Sep 2011, 18:34

Welcome to the Hotel California
Such a lovely place (Such a lovely place)
Such a lovely face
They livin' it up at the Hotel California
What a nice surprise (what a nice surprise)
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby WBAGNR » 18 Sep 2011, 02:06

Mirrors on the ceiling,
and pink champagne on ice, and she said
"We are all just visitors here, of our own device"
In the masters chamber, they gathered for the feast
Stab it with their steely knives
but they just can't kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was,
running for the door.
I had to find a passage back to the place I was before.
"Relax" said the night man, "we are, programmed to receive.
You can check out any time you like,
but you can never leave"


Personally, that is just a little too close to the recent episode for my liking.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Gordon Fearman » 18 Sep 2011, 02:12

Dude I thought of that song like 5 minutes into the episode. If it is an adaptation of The Hotel California, that's kinda cool. I mean, they made it into a really good Doctor Who episode. I would just hope they own up to it.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 18 Sep 2011, 02:23

But the beast did die...
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby WBAGNR » 18 Sep 2011, 02:41

Technicalities. :P
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Ottoman » 18 Sep 2011, 08:22

WBAGNR wrote:Personally, that is just a little too close to the recent episode for my liking.
Wait, what? Where is that from?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby tbug » 18 Sep 2011, 08:59

Merrymaker_Mortalis wrote:I think . . . the doctor saw Omega. My reason for the latter is You hear the TaRDiS' warning bells which according to Wikipedia and the current new series only toll when Bad Shit is Going Down. Another is that Amy asks the Doctor near the end "What/Who do Timelords belive in?" He shrugs this off implying it's dangerous knowledge/has something to do with what he saw. I do belive Omega was the first Timelord or is viewed as the creator of Timelords [I don't know, my knowledge is Wikipedia based] so Omega could be seen as a deity.


The first three Timelords were Omega, Rassilon, and the Other. I recently rewatched The Three Doctors, in which the Doctor(s) encountered and defeated Omega; there was respect and maybe a little awe, but not a lot of fear. The Doctor was afraid when he saw Rassilon in The End of Time, but I think that was more fear of the situation than of the individual (though I could be wrong). As for the Other, it depends on whether or not you believe in the Cartmel Masterplan. :)

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 18 Sep 2011, 09:12

It's hard to deny that the symbols of The Silence Army aren't an Omega with II down them. My theory has legs, however there is equal chance that Omega isn't implied this episode.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby tbug » 18 Sep 2011, 09:47

Thanks for pointing out the Silence symbol. I'd forgotten that.

It's been a really long time since I saw Arc of Infinity (Omega's last appearance to date). Anyone remember what his interactions with the Doctor were like in that story?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby epocalypse » 18 Sep 2011, 10:53

Rory has fantastic taste in cars. The Jag E Type is a thing of pure beauty. I continue to love the current series, nay sayers be darned!
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Myrph » 18 Sep 2011, 12:18

Can I just say, that I had this running through my head all throughout this episode.

Great episode though, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Also, what's the betting that Rory and Amy are only gone for a single episode, giving Craig another episode for himself, before they return in the finale, especially since Karen has confirmed she is returning for series 7.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby WBAGNR » 18 Sep 2011, 13:03

Who's she?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby JustAName » 18 Sep 2011, 13:08

I liked this one, but then I really enjoyed the attic episodes of Dollhouse as well... personal fears are always fun.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Keab42 » 18 Sep 2011, 13:11

Myrph wrote:Also, what's the betting that Rory and Amy are only gone for a single episode, giving Craig another episode for himself, before they return in the finale, especially since Karen has confirmed she is returning for series 7.


But Arthur Darvil messed up in an interview and referred to working on Who in the past tense, suggesting he won't be back for S7
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby iamafish » 18 Sep 2011, 13:25

WBAGNR wrote:Personally, that is just a little too close to the recent episode for my liking.


There aren't that many connections really. Can't writers use other art forms of inspiration any more? They hardly ripped the eagles off, I mean, the idea of a hotel from which you cannot check out is not exclusive to that song.

it's like saying the Twilight books are too close to Buffy the Vampire Slayer because they both contain vampires.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Ottoman » 18 Sep 2011, 13:49

Oh yeah, man, nothing is original, and nothing has been for a long time. Every creator is influenced by others, whether you call it inspiration, homage, or theft. And remember all those times that wankers on the E have accused LRR of stealing sketch ideas from other comedy troupes? Sometimes, it's just coincidence.

Also, of course Rory and Amy will be back for the finale; don't be stupid.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby WBAGNR » 18 Sep 2011, 13:55

I wasn't saying it in a "They've ripped off the Eagles". That would be preposterous.

What I meant was that there are quite a few similarities, and I might suggest it is more than a coincidence.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Ottoman » 18 Sep 2011, 14:00

A~nd?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby epocalypse » 18 Sep 2011, 14:40

WBAGNR wrote:I wasn't saying it in a "They've ripped off the Eagles". That would be preposterous.

What I meant was that there are quite a few similarities, and I might suggest it is more than a coincidence.


I read much more as being Sartre's No Exit meets the myth of the Minotaur.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 18 Sep 2011, 15:28

Myrph wrote:Can I just say, that I had this running through my head all throughout this episode.



Well the people seem to smile/laugh in their minds as they have their mental breakdown in the hotel so... I think we've found the *true* influence for the episode (not that Eagle's song).
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Gordon Fearman » 18 Sep 2011, 21:57

Ottoman wrote:A~nd?

That's the 'and'. What do you want?
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Re: Doctor Who

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby tbug » 20 Sep 2011, 21:24

We just rewatched the end of Planet of the Spiders, which involved a long conversation between the Doctor and the guru who trained him back on Gallifrey. They were discussing the Doctor's greatest fear. I'm not entirely sure what they were trying to say, but it seemed to say that what he most feared was spiders. (The fifth Doctor and the eighth Doctor were later also shown to be afraid of spiders, for what that's worth.)

I don't think this is what he saw, though. We didn't see what was in his room, but we did hear the cloister bell.
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