Doctor Who

[Geoff_B]

Going by some of the Doctors wouldn't the Doctor's greatest fear be regenerating into someone evil? More evil than the Master for example? He seems to be afraid of the personality change that comes with regeneration anyway.

[iamafish]

I think he saw himself, personally. This whole series, in fact, ever since Moffat took over, a big theme has been that the doctor is not an all-singing all-dancing superhero who never puts a step wrong. He has a pretty dark past and he has some very dark bits of him floating around. The Dream Lord anyone? I think the Doctor's greatest fear would be himself and his own capacity for destruction and hurt.

[The Jester]

What I think is most likely is that he saw Amy and Rory's broken bodies, or something equally terrible having happened to them. That's why I think he pushed them away at the end of the episode.


Unrelated, but I have a question; was Christopher Eccleston's Doctor explicitly stated within the show to have been the Doctor's 9th regeneration?

[iamafish]

well, Smith has been stated to have been the 11th, so logically I suppose he must have. Why do you ask?

[The Jester]

Oh, ok. I just thought that he may not have been the 11th, and could have been the 15th or something.

[iamafish]

nope, the 11 doctors are:
William Hartnell
Patrick Troughton
Jon Pertwee
Tom Baker
Peter Davison
Colin Baker
Sylvester McCoy
Paul McGann
Christopher Eccleston
David Tennant
Matt Smith

[The Jester]

I know, I just thought it was possible there were a few more in between McGann and Eccleston.

[Merrymaker_Mortalis]

I strongly don't think the doctor saw himself (as the current form atleast) because if that was so, in The Rebel Flesh and Almost People he would have a mental breakdown when he met his Flesh Avatar.

The Cloister bell is significant.

[Geoff_B]

On the subject of regenerations one thing I've always wondered is what about the aborted regeneration in Journey's End? David Tennant starts to regenerate but is able to stop it. Does that count against the number of regenerations? The answer would of course be no since Matt Smith refers to himself as number 11 but it does seem like the writers are pulling things out of thin air.

[WBAGNR]

The doctor ate an apple...he hates apples. Ganger?

[Lyinginbedmon]

Things will get very loopy indeed if that is the case.

[Dutch guy]

Wasn't it pears the doctor hates?

[Lyinginbedmon]

10 hated pears, as shown in Human Nature, but 11 hates apples, baked beans, bacon, and bread & butter as shown in his series of taste experiments in The Eleventh Hour

[Geoff_B]

Didn't he say that was because he'd only just been regenerating and everything was still getting settled?

[Lyinginbedmon]

I believe his exact words were "New mouth, new rules"

[Merrymaker_Mortalis]

And it did seem to make a big fuss over him eating an apple. Why *would* the Doctor Eat an apple? It's like him, Rory and Amy are talking in the Tardis and Rory is munch a Mars bar. The apple has significance. It would be like Amy blowing her nose. People don't do normal things in dramas inless the stage direction tells them to.

[tbug]

I believe his exact words were "New mouth, new rules"

Right, but then after Amy whacked him upside the head with a cricket bat he said that it was just what he had needed and that he was sorted. I thought that was supposed to imply that we wasn't going to be all weird with food any more.

This in no way subtracts from the way that the director paid so much attention to him eating an apple, of course.

[Merrymaker_Mortalis]

Or maybe the direct is the type of director who insists on showing characters pooping or scratching their arses for no good reason what so ever.

[WBAGNR]

Well that was a thing

[iamafish]

lol

a bit of light relief with Craig before the serious stuff. Not terribly sophisticated or new, but entertaining enough.

[Merrymaker_Mortalis]

RTD should take notes at how to do homosexual jokes...

I'm just thinking, wtf... now. How is everything going to fall into place now? Please don't cope-out with a montarge (a good man goes to war) to try and cram in 457628 years of events into 1 episode by having alot of stuff happen pre-episode.

Blimey, a prequail out already! http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00kn2y6 for the unfortunate British. Seems the eye patches are symbolic rather than 'being one'. Do they protect the wearer from the Parasitic Silence? Can someone be bothered to write down the annoying nurseyrhyme that seems important but is too high-pitched.

[WBAGNR]

Woah woah woah....is this Matt Smith's last series as the Doctor?

[Keab42]

No, he's signed on for another series at least.

[WBAGNR]

Phew...saw something somewhere else that insinuated he was going.

[Geoff_B]

So bets on there being yet another almighty cosmic reset button?