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Do you need the Courage Wolf, Elomin? DO YOU NEED COURAGE WOLF?

Mission... Something. So I dont really know what happened. I stepped up to her and opened with pokemon talk then went straight to the topic. I mentioned that something she said had me thinking all weekend and she said she knew it was the comment about dating. I asked if it was a bad thing and she said no why. I responded with that I would really like to date her because in the parks gene pool, she's the best I've found. Common interests and she's fun to talk to. She's laughed at this and I stated that I'd like to date her. This is when she brought up the cock block, her father. I have to get his trust as he lies with her (not the other way around) and he is protective of her. I joked about when she's moving to the other dorm and that I could move in with him. Then I seriously asked if I could meet and talk to him and finally ended it with a simple see you later and left.

I don't think it was a failure. I'm not sad but at the same time I'm not exactly joyful

well at least that's as i-have-a-legit-issue excuse not an I'm-not-interested-but-i-want-to-let-you-down-easy excuse. probably meeting the parents is too soon. (i just read the last post so i don't know much context)

How old is this girl?

-m

Bit she's 21 which is odd to me. Ya her parents are divorced an he might be protective, still odd IMO.

The idea that a father living with his 21 year old daughter would be so protective as to prevent her dating people seems highly questionable to me.

-m

Does he look at all rapey?

i have a friend who isn't suppose to date. i think her parents are scared if she dates a boy that isn't brown the neighbors will gossip. also another friend who's not suppose to date because her parents only want her to date other jahovah's witness...

Oh those crazy Jehovah's, with all that witnessing they doing.

Because limiting who you allow your children to date ALWAYS turns out fantastically.

Silly people.

they DO witness a lot...

allison wrote:i have a friend who isn't suppose to date. i think her parents are scared if she dates a boy that isn't brown the neighbors will gossip. also another friend who's not suppose to date because her parents only want her to date other jahovah's witness...

But you're like 17, or 18, aren't you?

And I assume those friends are living at home?

-m

Matt, this isnt your normal area, nobody owns anything here, except trailers but you RENT the property its on. They both work the for the one of three companies here, and that company has dorms. She lived in a dorm with 3 friends and they move out/away (our turnover rate is VERY high, even for managers). So he moved in, why? who knows, but its better she be with him than some pedophile/rapist/thief that tend to be ATTRACTED to grand canyon. She plans to move out when he gets a room mate but technically shes still the homeowner. its not only that hes protective, but its a bit extreme, like she wanted to borrow my PS2 to play KH on, no problem, but he said no as she'd have to hook it up to HIS tv, and he doesn't know me. It's like WTF, its a PS2, not a bomb... He is how he is. and I walk by her place on the way home everyday, I saw he was home today and was tempted to take matters into my own hands and talk to the dude. he was outta town for the "get together" and so he doesn't know we went out together or that I was in "his house".

I actually met some Jehovah's once and asked, 'So what do you guys witness?'
'God's Kingdom'
'Soooo, you're job's done then?'

Elomin Sha wrote:I actually met some Jehovah's once and asked, 'So what do you guys witness?'
'God's Kingdom'
'Soooo, you're job's done then?'

.... i thought they witnessed jahovah.. god's kingdom isn't created untill the world ends... i think

gcninja wrote:Matt, this isnt your normal area, nobody owns anything here, except trailers but you RENT the property its on. They both work the for the one of three companies here, and that company has dorms. She lived in a dorm with 3 friends and they move out/away (our turnover rate is VERY high, even for managers). So he moved in, why? who knows, but its better she be with him than some pedophile/rapist/thief that tend to be ATTRACTED to grand canyon. She plans to move out when he gets a room mate but technically shes still the homeowner. its not only that hes protective, but its a bit extreme, like she wanted to borrow my PS2 to play KH on, no problem, but he said no as she'd have to hook it up to HIS tv, and he doesn't know me. It's like WTF, its a PS2, not a bomb... He is how he is. and I walk by her place on the way home everyday, I saw he was home today and was tempted to take matters into my own hands and talk to the dude. he was outta town for the "get together" and so he doesn't know we went out together or that I was in "his house".

And that's why I consider it questionable.

Dude sounds like he needs someone to give his head a shake.

That was not meant to imply that you should tell her to tell her dad off or anything, just that I consider her father's parenting to be incredibly misguided.

-m

@matt
one of them is still at home

I have a friend who's parents are pretty much that crazy. then he got a girlfriend and she got him to break their rules... too bad it a whole different story when the genders are switched

Well, i hope that taking the "can I meet and talk to him" route is better than, "fuck him, lets go out" route.

it shows her that you respect her and her family.

Yes... that is why.. <_< exactly.
Actually I just don't want to rush things, so why not just meet him and all

I learned the hard way about rushing things

hmm, i always rush things... but also my best relationship have been by accident. maybe that says something

how does the young lady in question think about her father's massive over-protection issues?

I havent asked, but I have confirmed that he is over protective. I can understand why though, a divorced father just wanting to keep his daughter safe. Hes a passive type who just wants the best

Also, sorry about not posting, cellphone and internet went out for the park (again) for about 7hours

Yes, I'm going to double post. You shut your face. So somebody here at work I was talking to about this suggested something that's been sitting in the back of my mind. That being that she used the over protective father as an excuse instead of no. While I understand my PoV, that being he wouldnt allow a ps2 that she asked to borrow much less yer gong on a date. The other PoV makes sense too, an easy let down for a 'kind' person.
So a this point and how my days been going, I'm thinking it's the latter and might just call it quits. In 5 days I won't see her for another 3 months so I think I can wait it out.

Opinions? And please, no 'do what you want it's your life' stuff