Wikileaks

[sdhonda]

Well some one here seems to get it.

[Gordon Fearman]

Get what?

[sdhonda]

it.

[Gordon Fearman]

That's not really ringing a bell.

[goat]

Solitary itself isn't torture, but that level of solitary is.

Thank for continuing to be disgusting, American military/government. As for the rest of America, I would probably be a huge asshole if I made generalisations about you based on the actions of your Armed Forces especially since many Americans are outraged by this.

Fix'd.

I think the implication was "america the sociopolitical entity" not "the american people".

That distinction was plainly obvious to me.

-m

This. If I wanted to shit on the american people, I'd have said "thanks for being disgusting americans, you fat, sick bastards".

Also, I'm one of those outraged americans (though I don't have a lot of respect for many of my fellow countrymen--those fat sick bastards).

[Gordon Fearman]

Also, I'm one of those outraged americans (though I don't have a lot of respect for many of my fellow countrymen--those fat sick bastards).

I agree. We should burn down the White House. It was cool when the British did it.

[gcninja]

Everybody wave to the FBI
*waves*

[Gordon Fearman]

Kitty!

[Dutch guy]

Everybody wave to the FBI
*waves*

[the_lone_bard]

Well since we're already waving to them

bomb terror building gun drug explode blow up hijack ak47 plane train automobile plutonium revolution.

Ohi FBI.

[Dubious_wolf]

Nah the FBI probably doesn't care. no it's those really high level organizations you gotta watch out for. They are sneaky bastards.

[goat]

Oh jesus. This is ripe for twisting. Man gets acquitted for child porn charges using what I'm now referring to as the "wikileaks" defense:

“He did not possess anything at all,” McKee said. “What he did was look at an image on a website somewhere else. He did not control it; he did not have dominion over it. He looked at an image that was somewhere else.”

McKee likened Douglas's actions in looking at the material to a person reading the WikiLeaks documents on line.

“Under the state's theory, if you look at those documents and you see those stolen documents, because you could download and could print them, you are in possession,” McKee said. “When someone goes on the Internet and looks at an image, it is not possession.”

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/form ... 12-14.html

[the_lone_bard]

Oh jesus. This is ripe for twisting. Man gets acquitted for child porn charges using what I'm now referring to as the "wikileaks" defense:

with the existance of 4chan i actually have to say that's probably a legitimate defence... not that all of /b/ doesn't need to burn...

[Gordon Fearman]

See, I think /b/ would be fine if everyone who looked at it was just quarantined somewhere.

[empath]

Well since we're already waving to them

bomb terror building gun drug explode blow up hijack ak47 plane train automobile plutonium revolution.

Ohi FBI.

That's weird; "bomb terror building gun drug explode blow up hijack ak47 plane train automobile plutonium revolution" is the name of my retro-anarchic punk band.

But seriously, when Zyxst was still in the US and I in Canada, I'd start off every call with "Terrorist cocaine assassinate plutonium - Hi, honey..." just so we'd tie up someone's wiretapping assets. (and this was pre-9/11)


FUN FACT: it's the NSA that typically does most of the 'signals intelligence' that monitors communications, especially internationally.

[goat]

Oh jesus. This is ripe for twisting. Man gets acquitted for child porn charges using what I'm now referring to as the "wikileaks" defense:

with the existance of 4chan i actually have to say that's probably a legitimate defence... not that all of /b/ doesn't need to burn...

Oh, I'm not saying it's not a legitimate defense in certain cases. I just think it's bullshit in the specific instance from that article. I also find it interesting that the example of wikileaks was used, and I also feel like wikileaks will quickly become the defining example of this.

[the_lone_bard]

See, I think /b/ would be fine if everyone who looked at it was just quarantined somewhere.

like in a fire.

[Gordon Fearman]

Stop with the flame war, man.

[empath]

And these Australians claim 4chan is rude and violent.

[Gordon Fearman]

See, I was doing a pun.

Fire...flame.

You know.

[Bananafish]

WikiLeaks cables: India accused of systematic use of torture in Kashmir

Beatings and electric shocks inflicted on hundreds of civilians detained in Kashmir, US diplomats in Delhi told by ICRC

Other cables reveal that:

• The Dalai Lama has told US officials that combating climate change is more urgent than finding a political solution in Tibet, which "can wait five to 10 years".

• Rahul Gandhi, the crown prince of Indian politics, believes Hindu extremists pose a greater threat to his country than Muslim militants, according to the American ambassador to India.

• Five doctors were coerced by the Sri Lankan government to recant on casualty figures they gave to journalists in the last months of island's brutal civil war.

The most highly charged dispatch is likely to be an April 2005 cable from the US embassy in Delhi which reports that the ICRC had become frustrated with the Indian government which, they said, had not acted to halt the "continued ill-treatment of detainees".

The embassy reported the ICRC concluded that India "condones torture" and that the torture victims were civilians as militants were routinely killed.

The ICRC staff told the US diplomats they had made 177 visits to detention centres in Jammu and Kashmir and elsewhere in India between 2002 and 2004, and had met 1,491 detainees. They had been able to interview 1,296 privately.

In 852 cases, the detainees reported ill-treatment, the ICRC said. A total of 171 described being beaten and 681 said they had been subjected to one or more of six forms of torture.

These included 498 on which electricity had been used, 381 who had been suspended from the ceiling, 294 who had muscles crushed in their legs by prison personnel sitting on a bar placed across their thighs, 181 whose legs had been stretched by being "split 180 degrees", 234 tortured with water and 302 "sexual" cases, the ICRC were reported to have told the Americans.

[Bananafish]

lil 'merica :3

[Angnor]

Oh jesus. This is ripe for twisting. Man gets acquitted for child porn charges using what I'm now referring to as the "wikileaks" defense:

with the existance of 4chan i actually have to say that's probably a legitimate defence... not that all of /b/ doesn't need to burn...

Oh, I'm not saying it's not a legitimate defense in certain cases. I just think it's bullshit in the specific instance from that article. I also find it interesting that the example of wikileaks was used, and I also feel like wikileaks will quickly become the defining example of this.

I'm torn. If the guy is looking up child porn he needs to die. On the other hand, I see the merits of this defense in regard to the viewing things online.

[Gordon Fearman]

The ICRC staff told the US diplomats they had made 177 visits to detention centres in Jammu and Kashmir and elsewhere in India between 2002 and 2004, and had met 1,491 detainees. They had been able to interview 1,296 privately.

In 852 cases, the detainees reported ill-treatment, the ICRC said. A total of 171 described being beaten and 681 said they had been subjected to one or more of six forms of torture.

These included 498 on which electricity had been used, 381 who had been suspended from the ceiling, 294 who had muscles crushed in their legs by prison personnel sitting on a bar placed across their thighs, 181 whose legs had been stretched by being "split 180 degrees", 234 tortured with water and 302 "sexual" cases, the ICRC were reported to have told the Americans.

Why is 'sexual' in quotes?

[Elomin Sha]

Bank of America has stopped handling payments for wikileaks. New target for Anonymous now?