I now officially hate the Escapist

Drop by and talk about anything you want. This is where all cheese-related discussions should go
User avatar
Xtasisanu
Posts: 16
Joined: 03 Apr 2011, 07:25
First Video: The Job
Location: In the Corner of Texas
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Xtasisanu » 03 Apr 2011, 08:10

It sounds like someone didn't full think through there complaint. lol
"Something witty and revealing" - Generic
User avatar
Keab42
Posts: 6662
Joined: 27 May 2009, 16:38
Location: In England

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Keab42 » 03 Apr 2011, 14:14

Pub club is worth it, HD LRR is very good, and you get to watch the videos ad-free without taking money away from LRR. I think that's a good thing all round.
Keab42: Keeb-forty-two Deal with it. @Keab42 | | +Keab42 | | Tumblr
User avatar
Tycherin
Posts: 835
Joined: 30 Mar 2011, 13:27
First Video: The Lich King's New Wrath
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Tycherin » 03 Apr 2011, 19:57

Frankly, I've never understood the advertising angle at all. I don't mind watching the ads (though some of them get unbelievably annoying after a while- I'm looking at you, Bing), but I also don't really pay attention to them. I've never felt the sudden urge to go buy a Slim Jim or and Alienware computer or... Prudential financial advice, or... whatever it is they're advertising now. But hey, if they want to pay for my otherwise free internet content by having me watch commercials for products I will never buy, that's their loss.
User avatar
Vigafre
Posts: 3920
Joined: 27 Jul 2009, 13:07
First Video: Halo: The Future of Gaming
Location: Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Vigafre » 03 Apr 2011, 20:13

This is how I see ads:

Ad: Hey you! Look at our product!

Viewer: Wha...Oh hey ad.

Ad: HIIII! Am I interesting?

Now this goes two ways:

Viewer: No.

Or:

Viewer: No, but I know you exist.

30 minutes later.

Viewer: I could really go for some [product of ad].
User avatar
King Kool
Quality and Quantity
Posts: 5982
Joined: 28 Jan 2008, 19:22
Location: Rhode Island
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby King Kool » 03 Apr 2011, 20:30

When I watched all the entries of the Escapist Film Festival, I saw those Slim Jim ads SEVENTY FUCKING TIMES.

At time 40, I was like, "IF I BUY SOME FUCKING SLIM JIMS, CAN I SKIP THE FUCKING ADS?!"

I spent a half-hour of my life watching those ads. At the end of my life, when I stare at the ceiling, my last friend, as it all goes black, the last thing I shall see are THOSE FUCKING COMMERCIALS.
Image
a winner is you. - Ash
King Kool, you are wrong. - Graham
King Kool, shut your face. - James
This thread was creepy until KingKool made it AWESOME. - Tombrend
Why this obsession with foam implements? - Metcarfre
User avatar
empath
Posts: 13530
Joined: 28 Nov 2007, 17:20
First Video: How to Talk Like a Pirate
Location: back in the arse end of nowhere

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby empath » 03 Apr 2011, 22:06

Sorry, but this is how I see those ads:





Want me to do it again?

RI & OK; this HAS to be limited to the U.S. - show of hands, who does see these PRE-video ads and who doesn't, and what part of the world are they viewing them in?

- Nope; Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
LogicSword
Posts: 2149
Joined: 22 Sep 2010, 12:42
First Video: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Location: Sheffield, UK

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby LogicSword » 04 Apr 2011, 00:31

England - I occasionally see them, but not on every video. Maybe only on half.
User avatar
theDreamer
Posts: 5978
Joined: 20 May 2008, 17:51
First Video: Quantum Documentary
Location: 5th Level of Hell

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby theDreamer » 04 Apr 2011, 04:28

I can't recall seeing one, Ontario, Canada (I feel like I'm in zombieland, and it's being filmed by an american)
I can put my hands in my head, and I can laugh it in the face.
User avatar
Vigafre
Posts: 3920
Joined: 27 Jul 2009, 13:07
First Video: Halo: The Future of Gaming
Location: Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Vigafre » 04 Apr 2011, 04:53

I'm on Pub Club. I was speaking in general.
User avatar
empath
Posts: 13530
Joined: 28 Nov 2007, 17:20
First Video: How to Talk Like a Pirate
Location: back in the arse end of nowhere

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby empath » 06 Apr 2011, 10:30

okay, that's one YES in RI/USA, one 'almost sure never' in NL/CDA, one 'don't think so' in ON/CDA, and one 'occasionally' in UK, which is by far the most interesting...

...begs the question WHY some of the time BUT also not other times? Is there indecision on the ad strategies for the UK market? Are there different setups for different videos? (no-pre's for LRR/et al, but yes for ZP and MovieBob's vids?)

Technically there's no requirement that the Escapist would have to tell us, and indeed there may be reasons they're not allowed to say anything, but my Inner Snoop™ doesn't care about that when it yanks on my hypothalamus and coaxes my motor cortex to investigate further, unfortunately... :oops:
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
LogicSword
Posts: 2149
Joined: 22 Sep 2010, 12:42
First Video: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Location: Sheffield, UK

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby LogicSword » 06 Apr 2011, 14:02

The adverts for me are always on ZP, about half and half for LRR and less for Unskippable and Daily Drop. They're the only ones I watch though, so I can't comment on anything else.
User avatar
Kyogissun
Posts: 378
Joined: 02 Dec 2009, 20:08
First Video: Three PS3's or one of the X ways to Y

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Kyogissun » 06 Apr 2011, 14:20

Just get the pub club subscription, 20 bucks a year is pretty sweet.
Currently Playing: Skyrim (Dawnguard), Bunch of Shit on Steam (Blame the Summer Sale), Tales of Graces f
Waiting For: Kingdom Hearts 3D, Torchlight II

I attend (almost) every FNM at Millenium Games in Henrietta.

Steam: OhYouFoal
XBL GT: Kyogissun
User avatar
empath
Posts: 13530
Joined: 28 Nov 2007, 17:20
First Video: How to Talk Like a Pirate
Location: back in the arse end of nowhere

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby empath » 06 Apr 2011, 15:11

thank you for not reading a single word I've posted
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Kyogissun
Posts: 378
Joined: 02 Dec 2009, 20:08
First Video: Three PS3's or one of the X ways to Y

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Kyogissun » 06 Apr 2011, 15:41

empath wrote:thank you for not reading a single word I've posted


...I read what you said, I was more just throwing in my 2 cents for the initial post since OP seemed to still be giving input... Or so I thought.

I did it for more than just ads though, I wanted HD LRR vidyas again.

...But again, I did read what you said, I just... didn't take any of it into my post. >_>;;

Sorry if I've offended or something...

Either way, the ads must be something just implemented this year. I've had adblock on for ages and dodged the bullshit that most sites have posted, escapist being a primary one. Prior to that, the only 'ads' I ever remember seeing on escapist is plugs for new shows (like back when ENN started) or pub club plugs (Try saying that three times fast) but not anything beyond that.
Currently Playing: Skyrim (Dawnguard), Bunch of Shit on Steam (Blame the Summer Sale), Tales of Graces f
Waiting For: Kingdom Hearts 3D, Torchlight II

I attend (almost) every FNM at Millenium Games in Henrietta.

Steam: OhYouFoal
XBL GT: Kyogissun
User avatar
MowDownJoe
Posts: 497
Joined: 15 Oct 2010, 19:49
First Video: Joystique
Location: New Jersey

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby MowDownJoe » 07 Apr 2011, 09:38

Hey, fun fact: The Escapist can and will delete your posts if you so much as mention "AdBlock". Had it happen to me. Just after getting a badge for going without moderation for... I think it was 100 posts? Whatever. I honestly think it's a silly policy. And it's the reason I can't use Chrome (outside of that nifty Chrome Netbook Google sent me): AdBlock is really quite flimsy on it, as it only blocks banner ads. I think I almost went mad with all the Slim Jim ads I saw trying to watch various videos on The Escapist in the school's Computer Lab on my PortableApps Chrome install.
That said, I bought into the Pub Club thing during Desert bus (because half of the $20 was going to go to Desert Bus), and it's really worth it. HTML5 video (I even have a few choice LLR vids saved to my portable hard drive), no ads, High Def... not bad for $20.
Image
Image
Victim of a Platinum Angel/Phage combo in Momir. Thanks, LRR!
User avatar
theDreamer
Posts: 5978
Joined: 20 May 2008, 17:51
First Video: Quantum Documentary
Location: 5th Level of Hell

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby theDreamer » 07 Apr 2011, 09:44

Pub Club: I'm sure it passes the movie test, therefore, get it or shh you.

Now, I don't go to movies, so that's largely irrelevant for me :>
I can put my hands in my head, and I can laugh it in the face.
User avatar
Dave-O_Boy
Posts: 2679
Joined: 19 Apr 2009, 11:54
First Video: Unskipable
Location: Seattle

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Dave-O_Boy » 07 Apr 2011, 14:15

I don't get what the big deal is. Ads are very easy to avoid. Hit play, turn of your speakers, click on a different ad, do something for 30 seconds, unmute, and then enjoy the video.
~I'm probably not serious~
Oh and you can just call me Dave.
No need for the whole screen name.
User avatar
AmzRigh
Posts: 111
Joined: 13 Dec 2010, 13:48
First Video: Reduce Your Footprint
Location: Norman, OK
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby AmzRigh » 07 Apr 2011, 15:19

I went for the Pub Club, myself, but now I'm wondering...

Which does The Escapist make more money off of: ads or subscriptions?
Caveant Mundi game studio
Throne of Games & Thursday Throne, streaming live Thursdays & Saturdays at 9pm ET

Image
User avatar
empath
Posts: 13530
Joined: 28 Nov 2007, 17:20
First Video: How to Talk Like a Pirate
Location: back in the arse end of nowhere

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby empath » 07 Apr 2011, 18:17

wellll, it wouldn't take that many subs to rake in more than the ad revenue of many sites (and let's be honest, the E is pretty popular). Usually ad rev. is used to cover (or at least partially cover) the costs of site maintenance; no one (with any sense) looks to PROFIT from banner ads, just go broke more slowly ;)
Image
Image
Image
Wolfenbarg
Posts: 272
Joined: 25 Oct 2010, 14:58
First Video: The Job
Location: Colorado Springs

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Wolfenbarg » 08 Apr 2011, 01:34

For those of you mentioning the adblock runaround, Kathleen would have words with you: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... ent?page=1 Although reading that thread might make you hate The Escapist more.

As far as I know, blocking the ad doesn't count your view. Most of these models work on a CPM (cost per thousand views), so blocking the ads keeps LRR from getting paid. Slim Jim ads are annoying, but wouldn't you say the LRR crews videos are worth it? If not, then either go pub club, or don't watch.
User avatar
Niko
Posts: 31
Joined: 08 Apr 2011, 09:06
First Video: The Job
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Niko » 08 Apr 2011, 09:34

I used to get really annoyed at the ads, especially if I got the same one repeatedly, but I've since realised that a 15-30 second ad isn't really that big an issue for a 5 minute video. Especially if said ad is paying the creators.
Image
User avatar
Metcarfre
Posts: 13676
Joined: 08 Jul 2008, 13:52
First Video: Not Applicable
Location: Vancouver, B.C.

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Metcarfre » 08 Apr 2011, 09:35

^ THANK YOU.
*
User avatar
Dutch guy
Posts: 5200
Joined: 11 Feb 2008, 17:12
First Video: History of Halo
Location: Southern Dutch Colonies

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Dutch guy » 08 Apr 2011, 10:54

Escapist seems to be down right now :-( Weird
THE DUTCH!! THE DUTCH AGAIN!!!!!
Elomin Sha wrote:Dutch guy is the King of the Dutch.
User avatar
buickgnx87
Posts: 48
Joined: 27 Apr 2009, 17:50
Location: Houghton, MI (Yoopertown)
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby buickgnx87 » 08 Apr 2011, 11:25

Okay good, it's not just me then!
Signatures are for suckers!...oh wait
User avatar
Graham
Super Moderator
Posts: 15038
Joined: 09 Mar 2004, 19:37
Location: Victoria, BC
Contact:

Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Graham » 08 Apr 2011, 11:42

Niko wrote:I used to get really annoyed at the ads, especially if I got the same one repeatedly, but I've since realised that a 15-30 second ad isn't really that big an issue for a 5 minute video. Especially if said ad is paying the creators.

Thank you.

Return to “General Discussion”



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests