I now officially hate the Escapist

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I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Herald » 19 Mar 2011, 06:54

The reason can be summed up in three words: Unskippable Video Ads.

These are as annoying as hell, because you have to watch them EVERY time you want to watch a video over at the Escapist, they are boring, annoying, and repetitive.

Since the LRR crew is no longer doing ENN, can they maybe leave the Escapist now, and go back to doing their own thing without them?
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 07:02

Problem the first: Escapist helps LoadingReadyRun with an consistent revenue stream.

Problem the second: Escapist make money with ads. It you want to get away from the ads upgrade to club where you pay escapist to not see them.

Problem the third: LRR has three current video series on Escapist, ENN may becoming back.

Problem the fourth: LRR are under contract with Escapist (length unknown) and they have only just started the second season there.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby aeric90 » 19 Mar 2011, 07:03

You pretty much have 2 options. Buy a Publisher's Club membership or just get used to it because you're going to be seeing more and more of it. People aren't watching TV anymore and the Escapist doesn't pay for itself so ads are moving to the internet in droves. For that mater LoadingReadyRun doesn't pay for itself anymore so what you're asking Graham and Paul to do is to go back to normal jobs to support the videos you enjoy. Doesn't seem like reasonable request to me.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby SilPho » 19 Mar 2011, 07:05

At first I thought you meant you disliked adverts for "Unskippable".
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Master Gunner » 19 Mar 2011, 07:06

Unfortunately, the LRR crew needs to get paid in order to continue making videos, especially as many as they do, for any further length of time. They're just not big enough (yet, at least), to support themselves independently. Those ads, as sucky as they are, pay for the Escapist, which pays for LRR. So the only way around it is really to buy a pub club membership (no ads, high res video), to ensure that the crew can still get paid without those ads.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 19 Mar 2011, 07:16

Well they don't "need" to get paid to keep making videos, after all they did quite a few years with no income from the videos themselves, and they still make money from merchandise, but having a consistent revenue stream from their primary output is certainly helpful for them.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 07:20

In a 2007 LRRcast a question was asked if they could see LRR still going on 10 years in the future. Graham remarked that if they were still doing it in some form they were being paid for it.
Then Jer announced LRRCon in 2017 in Pasadena.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Master Gunner » 19 Mar 2011, 07:33

Even if they didn't get paid, I'm sure that LRR would continue to happen for as long as they could, but there are realistic limits to what they can do. Making one video a week (much less 3+) takes a lot of time and effort, and as the crew get on with their lives, they'll end up having to make choices about where to allocate their time, and LRR could end up just being lower down on the list without it acting as a reliable means of income.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby gcninja » 19 Mar 2011, 07:35

Master Gunner wrote:Even if they didn't get paid, I'm sure that LRR would continue to happen for as long as they could, but their are realistic limits to what they can do. Making one video a week (much less 3+) takes a lot of time and effort, and as the crew get on with their lives, they'll end up having to make choices about where to allocate their time, and LRR could end up just being lower down on the list without it acting as a reliable means of income.

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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Juliamon » 19 Mar 2011, 08:15

Back on track....

Pub Club. It's totally worth it just to get rid of the ads. I tried watching without being logged in this week and almost went insane. It's not even that much money! And it helps support LRR!

Besides, HD is the ONLY way to watch Daily Drop.
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Postby InsaneFool » 19 Mar 2011, 08:31

I joined the Pub Club when they were donating half of the proceeds to Desert Bus. I never thought I'd pay for web content, but this has been totally worth it.

Mostly cause I never had to watch another Slim Jim ad. God those were annoying.
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Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 08:33

LRR need to add a pay for special content. All the Ads would be LRR related.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby TheRocket » 19 Mar 2011, 08:48

Lyinginbedmon wrote:Well they don't "need" to get paid to keep making videos, after all they did quite a few years with no income from the videos themselves, and they still make money from merchandise, but having a consistent revenue stream from their primary output is certainly helpful for them.



... Yeah I totally love not making money by doing my passion. Let's keep doing that for the sake of not annoying a few people with ads.

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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby MattAn » 19 Mar 2011, 09:51

Elomin Sha wrote:Problem the third: LRR has three current video series on Escapist, ENN may becoming back.


We must have listened to different Discount Deals podcasts..

Graham, Kathleen, Paul & Jer clearly stated that they ARE working on a project to replace ENN, but it is NOT ENN. Quite simply, it is done.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Cureless_Poison » 19 Mar 2011, 09:52

I actually don't know what you're talking about, the only ads I ever see are at the end of all the videos.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 10:06

I haven't listened to the most recent LRRcast yet, my mistake, I was referring to something else a few weeks back.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Metcarfre » 19 Mar 2011, 10:11

I now officially hate mah grocery store. Makin' me pay for mah groceries.

I now officially hate Translink. Makin' me have to have a ticket.

I now officially hate myself. Makin' mah boss pay for my services.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 10:15

I hate metcarfre for making me hate metcarfre.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby SilPho » 19 Mar 2011, 10:58

At least he doesn't charge you for hating him.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Elomin Sha » 19 Mar 2011, 11:00

You don't know about his Phantom Toll Booth I take it?
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby King Kool » 19 Mar 2011, 11:04

I watched all the entries in the Film Festival and watched that Slim Jim ad about SEVENTY times.

That got old, but whatever. It's a necessary thing.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby SilPho » 19 Mar 2011, 11:17

Elomin Sha wrote:You don't know about his Phantom Toll Booth I take it?


Ah of course, how could I have forgotten that.

On a side note, that is a strange yet fairly entertaining book.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby empath » 19 Mar 2011, 11:58

Cureless_Poison wrote:I actually don't know what you're talking about, the only ads I ever see are at the end of all the videos.


Yeah...is it a 'only happens in the U.S.' thing?

I even popped over and just watched Unskippable, Zero Punctuation, Loading Ready Run, Daily Drop and even The Big Picture. Not one single 'playback' subjected me to an ad before the desired video played.

I was surprised to notice that ALL the 'after-ads' were for the Pub Club, and none were the (up-to-now) more common 'breakdancing ZP imp'...I'm not sure if that has anything to do with this, but there it is.

Oh, and I don't hate met...because, you know, I'd have to pay to do so. NOTICE: The previous statement was a joke.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Cureless_Poison » 19 Mar 2011, 12:03

empath wrote:Yeah...is it a 'only happens in the U.S.' thing?


I would have to assume so.
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Re: I now officially hate the Escapist

Postby Dutch guy » 19 Mar 2011, 12:20

Or maybe you are running Ad-block or something? I find unskippable ads to be annoying as hell. Sure add revenue is important, but don't force me to watch 40 seconds of crap for something I'm never going to buy .
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