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Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Alja-Markir » 09 Apr 2011, 02:06

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Jillers » 09 Apr 2011, 09:17

What a fantastic idea: turn a ridiculously long and boring book into two ridiculously long and boring movies.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Mowinckel » 09 Apr 2011, 09:22

turning terrible books into terrible movies... its like... no i got nothing, this must never have happened before
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Bananafish » 09 Apr 2011, 10:40

I like how they were gonna release it on tax day but it was changed to another date, lmao
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Bananafish » 09 Apr 2011, 10:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MVFoiw-dw

It's sort of amazing how "i dont want my men working and possibly dying on an untested railway" is portrayed as an irrational opinion to have, and we're meant to sympathize with the psychopath protagonist

I can't wait for this movie to bomb because no one wants to watch a film about running a train company
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Deedles » 09 Apr 2011, 13:14

... Looking at that video, their acting is horrible!

That woman has as much passion and life in her acting as a week dead fish!
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Jillers » 09 Apr 2011, 14:48

To be fair, Dagny has as much passion and life as a week old dead fish.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Bananafish » 09 Apr 2011, 14:56

atlas shrugged has some of the most wooden prose i've ever read, the characters are practically cardboard cutouts and the 'villains' are embarrassing caricatures. the book is awful from both a literary and philosophical perspective, so idk if it's the actors or the material they were forced to work with

Galt is not necessarily intended to be a rounded or realistic character; he has been called "more a symbol than a person"[4] and "two-dimensional."[5] Mimi Reisel Gladstein describes Galt as "more icon than character."[6] Rand's own notes indicate that she expected the character to have "[n]o progression" and "no inner conflict" because he was "integrated (indivisible) and perfect."[7]


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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Deedles » 09 Apr 2011, 15:02

Jillers wrote:To be fair, Dagny has as much passion and life as a week old dead fish.


Yeah, that too.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby empath » 09 Apr 2011, 16:42

Yeah, knew about this for a while, as well. Not worried; Ayn was crap, her 'manifester' was crap, the aborted TV movie was going to be crap (and thankfully never saw the light of day), and this - from what little I've seen - is already crap and will merely stretch the toilet session into multiple sittings.

As is usual, I'll defer to someone more eloquent to voice my grievances with Rand and her anti-communism stance of "It's good and right and just to be a selfish sociopath": Mr. John Scalzi
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Bananafish » 09 Apr 2011, 17:56

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Gollom » 09 Apr 2011, 21:07

empath wrote:Yeah, knew about this for a while, as well. Not worried; Ayn was crap, her 'manifester' was crap, the aborted TV movie was going to be crap (and thankfully never saw the light of day), and this - from what little I've seen - is already crap and will merely stretch the toilet session into multiple sittings.

As is usual, I'll defer to someone more eloquent to voice my grievances with Rand and her anti-communism stance of "It's good and right and just to be a selfish sociopath": Mr. John Scalzi


That's an excellent review. I think "Sociopathic idealized nerds collapse society because they don’t get enough hugs." is my new favourite description of Rand's philosophy. Thanks!
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby iamafish » 09 Apr 2011, 21:33

I actually really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged, despite it being very flawed, however a movie is bound to be disappointing because the book is a 1100 word tomb that simply does not have enough stuff happening to hold an audience
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Bananafish » 09 Apr 2011, 22:32

Gollom wrote:
That's an excellent review. I think "Sociopathic idealized nerds collapse society because they don’t get enough hugs." is my new favourite description of Rand's philosophy. Thanks!


"Well we have infinite energy and anyone can do anything they want. There's no scarcity of food, water, heat, lighting, or housing...So lets just artificially create abject poverty because fuck those guys FUCK THEM."

this is a p good read imo

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

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iamafish wrote:I actually really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged, despite it being very flawed, however a movie is bound to be disappointing because the book is a 1100 word tomb that simply does not have enough stuff happening to hold an audience


The thing I like about Atlas Shrugges is Rand's gift of description. She's really good at describing things.

As far as plot and likeable and realistic characters? Plllbbbbbtttt.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby empath » 11 Apr 2011, 03:04

Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so... :(

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Kag » 11 Apr 2011, 05:14

I feel like it wouldn't be such a problem if Objectivism wasn't such an awful philosophy, but I agree completely.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

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empath wrote:Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so... :(

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?


It doesn't help that her political philosophies and her aesthetic judgements derive from the same sources.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby vazhkatsi » 11 Apr 2011, 12:48

theres already a movie of atlas shrugged. its called iron man.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby sdhonda » 11 Apr 2011, 19:16

Indeed. Or if not, at least that would easily answer empath's question.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby Jillers » 12 Apr 2011, 06:20

sdhonda wrote:
empath wrote:Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so... :(

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?


It doesn't help that her political philosophies and her aesthetic judgements derive from the same sources.


It doesn't help that I don't agree with her political philosophies.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby sdhonda » 12 Apr 2011, 06:50

I think she argues in The Romantic Manifesto, that all "real" art is inevitably influenced, and shows, it's authors moral views. If one cannot find any sort of moral or philosophical core in a peice of art, it can't be art.

Or at least that's what I understand from the little bit I've read about the book.
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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

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Re: Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

Postby sdhonda » 14 Apr 2011, 13:38

But through the lense of objectivist aesthetic judgement, which jettisons anything resembling aesthetics and looks only at the intent of the creator, it can only be ART.

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