Atlas Shrugged: The Movie

[Alja-Markir]

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I wish this wasn't a thing.

~Alja~

[sdhonda]

Old news

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W07bFa4TzM

[Jillers]

What a fantastic idea: turn a ridiculously long and boring book into two ridiculously long and boring movies.

[Mowinckel]

turning terrible books into terrible movies... its like... no i got nothing, this must never have happened before

[Bananafish]

I like how they were gonna release it on tax day but it was changed to another date, lmao

[Bananafish]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MVFoiw-dw

It's sort of amazing how "i dont want my men working and possibly dying on an untested railway" is portrayed as an irrational opinion to have, and we're meant to sympathize with the psychopath protagonist

I can't wait for this movie to bomb because no one wants to watch a film about running a train company

[Deedles]

... Looking at that video, their acting is horrible!

That woman has as much passion and life in her acting as a week dead fish!

[Jillers]

To be fair, Dagny has as much passion and life as a week old dead fish.

[Bananafish]

atlas shrugged has some of the most wooden prose i've ever read, the characters are practically cardboard cutouts and the 'villains' are embarrassing caricatures. the book is awful from both a literary and philosophical perspective, so idk if it's the actors or the material they were forced to work with

Galt is not necessarily intended to be a rounded or realistic character; he has been called "more a symbol than a person"[4] and "two-dimensional."[5] Mimi Reisel Gladstein describes Galt as "more icon than character."[6] Rand's own notes indicate that she expected the character to have "[n]o progression" and "no inner conflict" because he was "integrated (indivisible) and perfect."[7]

lol

[Deedles]

To be fair, Dagny has as much passion and life as a week old dead fish.

Yeah, that too.

[empath]

Yeah, knew about this for a while, as well. Not worried; Ayn was crap, her 'manifester' was crap, the aborted TV movie was going to be crap (and thankfully never saw the light of day), and this - from what little I've seen - is already crap and will merely stretch the toilet session into multiple sittings.

As is usual, I'll defer to someone more eloquent to voice my grievances with Rand and her anti-communism stance of "It's good and right and just to be a selfish sociopath": Mr. John Scalzi

[Bananafish]

postin this here 'cause it owns+ is funny

[Gollom]

Yeah, knew about this for a while, as well. Not worried; Ayn was crap, her 'manifester' was crap, the aborted TV movie was going to be crap (and thankfully never saw the light of day), and this - from what little I've seen - is already crap and will merely stretch the toilet session into multiple sittings.

As is usual, I'll defer to someone more eloquent to voice my grievances with Rand and her anti-communism stance of "It's good and right and just to be a selfish sociopath": Mr. John Scalzi

That's an excellent review. I think "Sociopathic idealized nerds collapse society because they don’t get enough hugs." is my new favourite description of Rand's philosophy. Thanks!

[iamafish]

I actually really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged, despite it being very flawed, however a movie is bound to be disappointing because the book is a 1100 word tomb that simply does not have enough stuff happening to hold an audience

[Bananafish]

That's an excellent review. I think "Sociopathic idealized nerds collapse society because they don’t get enough hugs." is my new favourite description of Rand's philosophy. Thanks!

"Well we have infinite energy and anyone can do anything they want. There's no scarcity of food, water, heat, lighting, or housing...So lets just artificially create abject poverty because fuck those guys FUCK THEM."

this is a p good read imo

Ayn Rand and the Is-Ought Problem

[Jillers]

I actually really enjoyed Atlas Shrugged, despite it being very flawed, however a movie is bound to be disappointing because the book is a 1100 word tomb that simply does not have enough stuff happening to hold an audience

The thing I like about Atlas Shrugges is Rand's gift of description. She's really good at describing things.

As far as plot and likeable and realistic characters? Plllbbbbbtttt.

[empath]

Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so...

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?

[Kag]

I feel like it wouldn't be such a problem if Objectivism wasn't such an awful philosophy, but I agree completely.

[sdhonda]

Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so...

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?

It doesn't help that her political philosophies and her aesthetic judgements derive from the same sources.

[vazhkatsi]

theres already a movie of atlas shrugged. its called iron man.

[sdhonda]

Indeed. Or if not, at least that would easily answer empath's question.

[Jillers]

Well, the problem there is that she used the story as just a vehicle for promoting her political philosophy, so...

I wonder what how a work of fiction of hers would turn out if it wasn't so burdened?

It doesn't help that her political philosophies and her aesthetic judgements derive from the same sources.

It doesn't help that I don't agree with her political philosophies.

[sdhonda]

I think she argues in The Romantic Manifesto, that all "real" art is inevitably influenced, and shows, it's authors moral views. If one cannot find any sort of moral or philosophical core in a peice of art, it can't be art.

Or at least that's what I understand from the little bit I've read about the book.

[Bananafish]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/atlas_shrugged_part_i/

haha

that poster is so shitty

[sdhonda]

But through the lense of objectivist aesthetic judgement, which jettisons anything resembling aesthetics and looks only at the intent of the creator, it can only be ART.