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Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:10
by Matt
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109568-Sony-Admits-Private-PSN-Info-Has-Been-Stolen-All-Of-ItHave a PSN account? Your personal info is in the wild.
FTA:
"Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID," Sony's Patrick Seybold wrote in a message being sent to all registered PSN account holders. "It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained."
"If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility,"
Batton down the hatches, this just turned into a shitstorm.
-m
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:14
by GreigKM
I regret buying that games on PSN now, for more reasons than the fact that I never played them... *sigh*
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:23
by Rikadyn
well fuck. Glad my credit card is always near the limit. but the rest of the data being out there...
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:29
by Yaxley
I know I removed my credit card information when I sent my PS3 in for repairs. Did I ever add it again? I can't remember. Sure wish I could check.
All of my hate, Sony. All of my hate.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:30
by King Kool
Yax, don't blame Sony. Blame the hackers. Or both. Both works, too.
I'm sensing a changing in the tides against "Anonymous" soon. Does anyone actually blame Sony for stopping some dude for hacking it? And now they release all sorts of personal info on it because hackers are fuckshits?
There might be some people who defend this as some sort of WikiLeaks similar thing, and they would also be fuckshits.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:34
by GreigKM
These hackers are just dicks out to get money.
The one Sony filed a lawsuit against, GeoHot, was a legitimate modder who did nothing but break the EULA, which is only ever supposed to be punishable by restricting access to services, not lawsuits.
So, yeah. Anyone defending these guys are idiots, anyone defending GeoHot just likes mods/modding (as in, me).
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:34
by The Jester
Has Anonymous claimed responsibility, then?
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:34
by Matt
There's no evidence whatsoever that the current attack was perpetrated by "anonymous" at all.
In fact, Anon. ceased their attack when it became apparent they were doing more harm to users than to Sony. There was no point in carrying on an attack in the name of consumer advocacy if it was the consumers that were taking the brunt of the damage.
That they would then turn around and steal all this info would be terribly out of character with regards to what they were aiming to achieve.
-m
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:39
by GreigKM
Well, it was perpetuated by anonymous people, and the showy group of idiots who call themselves Anonymous will probably take responsibility for it, even though I doubt they can do anything more than DDoS. This was obviously the work of a foreign group looking for quick cash, It's really odd that Sony's security was so spotty as to let them through, I mean, I'd expect it from smaller companies, but Sony?
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:39
by King Kool
That's why I used quotes. I didn't seem like Anon's style.
Once you perpetrate something like this, you're not Anonymous anymore. Maybe they'll find them.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:40
by Yaxley
King Kool wrote:Yax, don't blame Sony. Blame the hackers. Or both. Both works, too.
Fair enough. Most of my hate for Sony, the rest for the hackers.
To the extent that Anonymous can release statements, they've already said repeatedly that they aren't behind it.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:40
by Alja-Markir
Blaming hackers for finding exploitable weaknesses is like blaming the Rebels for finding that exhaust port on the Death Star.
Hackers gonna hack. Some for good reasons, others for bad. If you're in the security business, handling delicate information or anything else, you have no right to complain that you failed to meet the challenge.
~Alja~
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:44
by King Kool
Alja, I might dispute that, but it IS Sony. They shoulda been up to it.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:44
by Matt
King Kool wrote:I'm sensing a changing in the tides against "Anonymous" soon.
Also, "changing of the tides"? From hatred and misunderstanding to
more hatred and misunderstanding?
-m
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:45
by Matt
Uhh, in case anyone's not been paying attention, it's been clear that Sony's security on the PS3 has been swiss cheese for months now, and that the only thing sony was doing to stop it was prosecution and Streisanding.
-m
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:46
by Alja-Markir
Now I'm kinda imagining sanding a plank of wood with Barbara Streisand's face...
~Alja~
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:50
by Elomin Sha
So glad my PS3 was up a chimney.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:51
by sdhonda
Alja-Markir wrote:Blaming hackers for finding exploitable weaknesses is like blaming the Rebels for finding that exhaust port on the Death Star.
Hackers gonna hack. Some for good reasons, others for bad. If you're in the security business, handling delicate information or anything else, you have no right to complain that you failed to meet the challenge.
~Alja~
So, when thieves tunnel their way into a bank vault and raid the saftey deposit boxes, using a method that was considered possible but improbable, should blame go to the thieves or the bank?
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:52
by sdhonda
Matt wrote:King Kool wrote:I'm sensing a changing in the tides against "Anonymous" soon.
Also, "changing of the tides"? From hatred and misunderstanding to
more hatred and misunderstanding?
-m
Pretty much.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:59
by Agloriouscuppa
In a way I'm relieved then that my address listed is my old address in Manchester where I no longer live, is registered to my spam email and I have not used my credit card on it.
Its unfortunate that this happened. Why was their security so lax?
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 14:03
by Matt
Because geoHot blew a giant fucking hole in it.
-m
Although, that doesn't explain why this data wasn't (evidently) encrypted.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 14:04
by Bananafish
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 14:14
by GreigKM
I'm not even going to bother explaining the difference between local and network security exploits.
To the point: Sony should have had better security, and blame is exclusive to the hackers and them.
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 14:22
by Matt
Er, you're right, the GeoHot exploit was local, wasn't it.
-m
Re: Oh, GOOD.
Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 14:51
by Agloriouscuppa
I know I shouldnt post it, and not just because who ever made it clearly cannot tell that they used the wrong typeface (I mean really Arial narrow when it should be helvetica?).. But it could be the banner under which we stand.
