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E3.
I want to be there.
Wtf!? LRR Is fucking with me again! everything is screwy! I have someones avatar as my smiley face emoticon! and a few others too! AHHHHHH! And the button for "reply" is the "www" symbol.
Help me god
Anyways, where can I see coverage of the Nintendo conference? All I saw was the Microsoft and Square-enix ones on IGN.
Help me god
Anyways, where can I see coverage of the Nintendo conference? All I saw was the Microsoft and Square-enix ones on IGN.
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Matt wrote:nono.. six hundred and NINETY-NINE dollars for the PS3. thats 700 bones. not 6.
a PS3 w 60GB HD, 1 controller, and 3 games is gonna run 1200$ CDN after tax. and why? so sony can force you to own a blu-ray player, and offer you games that look about the same as X360 titles.
-M
uh. $599?
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I saw the sony press conference last night. You can see it for free at gamespot but you might have to sign up. I haven't seen the nintendo one as it was live at 12 last night and i needed to get uo a 4 to go to rowing and i'm still at school where most of the internet is blocked (thankfully not llr)
Nice to see naughty dog getting back into it but the game they're releasing isn't what i really wanted from them. "8 days" looks good if they're the ingame graphics and "resistance" = O_O. I've been interested in "assasins creed" and "brother in arms hell highway" for a while now. Thank god they got rid of the baterang controller.
Nice to see naughty dog getting back into it but the game they're releasing isn't what i really wanted from them. "8 days" looks good if they're the ingame graphics and "resistance" = O_O. I've been interested in "assasins creed" and "brother in arms hell highway" for a while now. Thank god they got rid of the baterang controller.
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Kathleen wrote:yeah, but the exchange won't be killer. By the time the PS3 comes out, the CAD dollar will probably be about 95 cents USD. (It was at 91 today.)
yeah, but canadaian price points on game systems are rarely exactly the same as the us prices, just accounting for exchange.
at today's exchange rate it's 548$ for the core PS3, and 660$ for the premium.
so the core is gonna be priced at 549.99, and I'd be willing to bet you that the premium releases at 699.99 just because they can. at BEST it'll come out at 679.99, but that would be extremely ununsual.
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ok, you know the whole HDMI/HDCP issue with high definition content, right? wherein if you don't have a TV that's HDCP compliant, you get downsampled resolutions in your video content, even on an HDTV?
Well, go figure. despite the fact that the size of no console title to date exceeds the possible max capacity of a single DVD, (accounting for dual-sided, dual-layered disks, mind you) sony felt it neccessary to include a blu-ray drive in the PS3, knowing FULL WELL that it would drive the console's cost through the roof (I can't even imagine how much they're losing per unit on the PS3, considering stand alone blu-ray players are going to be upwards of $1000). why did they include blu-ray? well, it wasn't to make sure there was ample room on disks for game content(though that's what their marketing team will say). it was simply to ensure that the core audience of high definition product (male 18-34) would already have a blu-ray player before HD-DVD became affordable, and widespread. having a blu-ray player in the ps3, ensures that anyone who buys a PS3 will hae no need for HD-DVD, and anyone currently considering HD-DVD will have a strong incentive to wait until november, and get a blu-ray drive. they didn't include it to enhance gaming, they did it simply to ensure that blu-ray beats HD-DVD.
that's screw #1.
Screw #2 revolves around their release of 2 different PS3 packages at 2 different price points. despite the fact that an HDMI out is REQUIRED for full resolution video, the cheaper (HA!) $499USD pack with the 20GB HDD DOES NOT HAVE ONE. ONLY the more expensive $599USD pack has an HDMI out. now, I'll grant that sony is not using HDCP protection on their gaming content, so you can get 720p even with component out for games, but the moment you spin up a blu-ray movie, you're stuck at 540p unless you bought the more expensive pack. That's some QUEER shit. Even more distressing is te fact that they know they can get away with it, for the most part, because maybe 10% of consumers even KNOW what this looming issue is. most people will buy the ps3 thinking its a good cheap way to get blu-ray, and not even know that sony has sold them something that was obsolete before it even released.
good times. good times.
on top of that, sony managed to show their console, and prove to the world that they are not only utterly incapable of producing a single new idea, but that they can't even lift ideas from other companies well.
-online, but no centralized online service (a poor man's xbox live)
-playstation library downloadable (instead of XBL arcade, or nintendo virtual console)
-motion sensitive controller (which only detects tilt and flick, not 3 dimensional motion in real space; only comprable to the nunchuck bit of the wii-mote, not the pointer end.)
-20GB HDD (*cough*)
-no rumble function in their controller, ('not possible due to space constraints, and interference with motion-sensing' they say, despite the fact that nintendo managed to cram better motion sensing, rumble, and a goddamn AUDIO system into their, EVEN SMALLER controller without issue)
-even a fucking guide button in the middle of the dualshock 3, just like the x360 controller.
and then they have the gall to have someone playing with the tilt function of their controller comment "wow, that's innovative!" at their press conference.
yeah, it is innovative - it's just nintendo's goddamn innovation.
they're arrogant, cocky, have no consern for consumer welfare, and feel that they're infallable. remember back through gaming history:
sega: master system, genesis, saturn (nearly went bankrupt)
nintendo: NES, SNES, N64 (lost more than 2/3 of their market share)
and now PS1, PS2, PS3
companies get over-confident and screw up on their third system, sega did it, nintendo did it, and sony's well on their way.
oh, and as a point of note, the president of sony commented today that he felt the PS3 was "possibly too cheap".
-M
PS: I just lifted this from IGN:
so even with the best pack, then, only 1 HDMI out, not two.
Well, go figure. despite the fact that the size of no console title to date exceeds the possible max capacity of a single DVD, (accounting for dual-sided, dual-layered disks, mind you) sony felt it neccessary to include a blu-ray drive in the PS3, knowing FULL WELL that it would drive the console's cost through the roof (I can't even imagine how much they're losing per unit on the PS3, considering stand alone blu-ray players are going to be upwards of $1000). why did they include blu-ray? well, it wasn't to make sure there was ample room on disks for game content(though that's what their marketing team will say). it was simply to ensure that the core audience of high definition product (male 18-34) would already have a blu-ray player before HD-DVD became affordable, and widespread. having a blu-ray player in the ps3, ensures that anyone who buys a PS3 will hae no need for HD-DVD, and anyone currently considering HD-DVD will have a strong incentive to wait until november, and get a blu-ray drive. they didn't include it to enhance gaming, they did it simply to ensure that blu-ray beats HD-DVD.
that's screw #1.
Screw #2 revolves around their release of 2 different PS3 packages at 2 different price points. despite the fact that an HDMI out is REQUIRED for full resolution video, the cheaper (HA!) $499USD pack with the 20GB HDD DOES NOT HAVE ONE. ONLY the more expensive $599USD pack has an HDMI out. now, I'll grant that sony is not using HDCP protection on their gaming content, so you can get 720p even with component out for games, but the moment you spin up a blu-ray movie, you're stuck at 540p unless you bought the more expensive pack. That's some QUEER shit. Even more distressing is te fact that they know they can get away with it, for the most part, because maybe 10% of consumers even KNOW what this looming issue is. most people will buy the ps3 thinking its a good cheap way to get blu-ray, and not even know that sony has sold them something that was obsolete before it even released.
good times. good times.
on top of that, sony managed to show their console, and prove to the world that they are not only utterly incapable of producing a single new idea, but that they can't even lift ideas from other companies well.
-online, but no centralized online service (a poor man's xbox live)
-playstation library downloadable (instead of XBL arcade, or nintendo virtual console)
-motion sensitive controller (which only detects tilt and flick, not 3 dimensional motion in real space; only comprable to the nunchuck bit of the wii-mote, not the pointer end.)
-20GB HDD (*cough*)
-no rumble function in their controller, ('not possible due to space constraints, and interference with motion-sensing' they say, despite the fact that nintendo managed to cram better motion sensing, rumble, and a goddamn AUDIO system into their, EVEN SMALLER controller without issue)
-even a fucking guide button in the middle of the dualshock 3, just like the x360 controller.
and then they have the gall to have someone playing with the tilt function of their controller comment "wow, that's innovative!" at their press conference.
yeah, it is innovative - it's just nintendo's goddamn innovation.
they're arrogant, cocky, have no consern for consumer welfare, and feel that they're infallable. remember back through gaming history:
sega: master system, genesis, saturn (nearly went bankrupt)
nintendo: NES, SNES, N64 (lost more than 2/3 of their market share)
and now PS1, PS2, PS3
companies get over-confident and screw up on their third system, sega did it, nintendo did it, and sony's well on their way.
oh, and as a point of note, the president of sony commented today that he felt the PS3 was "possibly too cheap".
-M
PS: I just lifted this from IGN:
IGN wrote:Looking at the official press site of SCEA, we noticed that the PS3 with the 20 gigabyte hard drive seemed to lack HDMI support. This seems to be confirmed by an offical press release from SCEA, which indicates via comparison between the two systems. However, it also indicates that the 20 gigabyte system won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capability or WiFi support. Even worse, it appears that rumble doesn't appear to be included with the new six axis sensing controller.
Update: It also appears that Sony has ditched dual-HDMI support altogether, even from its high-end 60GB system. Whether or not the system is still capable of running dual-displays by using both HDMI and the AV multi-out is unknown.
Also, Sony announced that the Blu-ray disc drive in the PS3 will run at 2X, or roughly 72Mbps.
so even with the best pack, then, only 1 HDMI out, not two.
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