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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Lord Hosk » 04 Jan 2012, 13:31

this would be interesting, set a response for like 10 or 15 minutes for all servers as "this is a protest of the SOPA act, blah blah blah, it will last from 1000 to 1015 est, please read up on SOPA after we restart our servers, sincerely, the Internets.
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby The Jester » 04 Jan 2012, 15:00

As long as they clearly explain why it happened in small words and sentences, it's something that needs to happen. The average Facebook user doesn't know what SOPA is, or care. That needs to change.
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Rikadyn » 05 Jan 2012, 10:58

the heart knows no greater tragedy than a breath that begins in love and ends in grief...
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Lord Hosk » 05 Jan 2012, 13:34

It is a bit off topic but I would like to say that intelectual property piracy is predominantly a problem created by the creators not the consumer. There will always be people who wipl steal rather than
Pay however I think the itunes/napster model has shown that it is not joe averages unwillingness to pay that is the issue it is content creators inability to recognise new models. Music piracey has according to most reliable numbers fallen below average crime levels meaning more people steal a cd than steal a mp3. I know this wont really effect anything but its such crap, this is not a law to protect IP its a law to protect old buisness models.
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Lord Hosk » 05 Jan 2012, 21:24

I hate to side with the sopa supporters but on one point they have a case and that is it would be next to impossible to secure their current holdings and ip. The issue is, once data is out, data is out, be it songs, tv shows, movies, games, raw data... On this they have a point however the tactic they are taking to fix this is flawed in every way but the accounting books and board room. These companies exist in a digital world but are analog companies, note that even computer companies like apple and microsoft are supporting this. They dont understand that the primary reason people pirate is eas of acess.

These companies see a digital download as exactly the same as a physical copy. 1 song sold is a single out the door, not a copy made. As such they try to protect it like its physical, looking at a pirated copy of transformers III as the same as a stolen dvd from best buy is just flawed logic.

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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Danielle Pepin » 06 Jan 2012, 00:45

Digital Dolphin wrote:I read today that Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon are considering a "nuclear" blackout to protest SOPA.

Could be interesting if it actually happens:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/google-amazon-twitter-and-facebook-consider-nuclear-blackout/14307



I totally agree with Wikipedia, Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon that we need something of that magnitude to illustrate what could happen and to spread awareness.

There's so many people out there that don't read the news unless something huge makes them ask questions and so many that tune out things like this until it gets this big. I wish facebook would show more of my friend's posts regardless of what people click/comment on frequently. It's harder to get news out.
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Rikadyn » 06 Jan 2012, 10:35

the heart knows no greater tragedy than a breath that begins in love and ends in grief...
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Danielle Pepin » 06 Jan 2012, 19:50

With censoring first you get the entire library closed down for someone that complained over the words "sex" and "fanny" and one image looks sorta similar to another one that is copyrighted. Then instead of eventually opening the library you risk books being burned like they did in the dark ages.
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Re: Stop SOPA

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Re: Stop SOPA

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I can put my hands in my head, and I can laugh it in the face.
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Re: Stop SOPA

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Oh, LOL.
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Re: Stop SOPA

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Re: Stop SOPA

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Re: Stop SOPA

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King Kool wrote:Yeah... the dark ages...



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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Drdiggit42 » 07 Jan 2012, 13:26

the amativeness wrote:Yeah... the dark ages...


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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Lemegeton » 07 Jan 2012, 14:14

SOPA makes me physically sick and whats even worse is that the majority of people over here in the UK have no idea that this is even happening. The optimist in me tells me that if it passes it wont be that bad but the realist knows different
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Lord Hosk » 07 Jan 2012, 14:57

If it does pass and it does get used, it will be that bad, it will be a huge disruption but will be quickly repealed.

Step one: the bill gets passed
Step two: A large corporation takes down a small site
step three: a vocal group of geeks and the ACLU get up in arms but the public as a whole is divided by "well they broke the law" or "why cant the courts handle it"
Step Four: emboldened by the recent "success" with minimal outcry from the public a few more companies will each take out a few more websites.

Step five: In a uproar geeks and their well paid lawyers , keep in mind that geeks are a lot of the 1% right now, will file under sopa against every major website and search engine shutting down the internet and everyone will care.

Unfortunately at this point it will have already cost millions if not billions of dollars of lost revenue and countless jobs.
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Re: Stop SOPA

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the amativeness wrote:Yeah... the dark ages...


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Re: Stop SOPA

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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Danielle Pepin » 07 Jan 2012, 22:17

If any of you are on deviantArt and want to spread the word there you can use my journal to link to or use as reference. I can imagine they'll be hit pretty hard too if someone tosses a cease and desist at any of their many users. There's enough legit sharing on there to cause suspicion aside from the real problems that would eventually get banned anyway from the same complaints.

http://dandy-l.deviantart.com/journal/deviantArt-May-be-Endangered-SOPA-Bill-C10-278266238
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby plummeting_sloth » 08 Jan 2012, 12:44

There was some neat SOPA talk from the panels at MAGfest. At was very wide ranging, but something that struck me was that, while many of the big entertainment companies (Sony, Nintendo, ect) have dropped their vocal support for SOPA and supposedly (but unprovably, thank you closed books) dropped some of their finical support for SOPA, the ESA to which they all belong is still throwing quite a bit of money at it. While attacking and boycotting those companies directly would have knock on effects, probably costing a lot of people who themselves may be very against the bill jobs while not touching the actual people behind the move, there might be another tack. E3, neutered though it is, is still a big money maker for the ESA. If one could convince the companies, since their so against SOPA, to boycott E3, it hits the ESA right in the balls without hurting actual companies bottom lines too much.
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Aydin225 » 11 Jan 2012, 21:56

back up top with you! I just started reading into this now that League of Legends has gone public with its protest of the bill http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/help-us-stop-sopa and I am absolutely horrified
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby Danielle Pepin » 12 Jan 2012, 20:39

Aydin225 wrote:back up top with you! I just started reading into this now that League of Legends has gone public with its protest of the bill http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/help-us-stop-sopa and I am absolutely horrified


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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby plummeting_sloth » 12 Jan 2012, 21:22

By the way, for those stateside LRR-ers, apparently many pro-SOPA/PIPA lawmakers are refusing to meet with people before the return to session. If you happen to have a lawmaker on the following list, give them a call and let them know that 1) you don't support the bill and 2) they really should have a least one open meeting before going back.


Lisa Murkowski (R, AK) - 907-456-0233
Jeff Sessions (R, AL) - (205) 731-1500
Richard Shelby (R, AL) - (205) 731-1384
John Boozman (R, AR) - (501) 372-7153
Mark Pryor (D, AR) - (501) 324-6336
Jon Kyl (R, AZ) - (602) 840-1891
John McCain (R, AZ) - (602) 952-2410
Barbra Boxer (D, CA) - (510) 286-8537
Diane Feinstein (D, CA) - (415) 393-0707
Michael Bennet (D, CO) - (303) 455-7600
Richard Blumenthal (D, CT) - (860) 258-6940
Joe Liberman (I, CT) - 866-317-2242
Bill Nelson (D, FL) - (407)-872-7161
Saxby Chambliss (R, GA) - (770)-763-9090
Johnny Isakson (R, GA) - (770) 661-0999
Daniel Akaka (D, HI) - (808) 522-8970
Daniel Inoyue (D, HI) - (808) 541-2542
Tom Harkin (D, IA) - (515) 284-4574
Mike Crapo (R, ID) - (208) 334-1776
James Risch (R, ID) - 208-342-7985
Dick Durbin (D, IL) - (312) 353-4952
Mark Kirk (R, IL) - (312)-886-3506
Richard Lugar (R, IN) - (202) 224-4814
Daniel Coats (R, IN) - (317) 554-0750
Mitch McConell (R, KY) - (502) 582-6304
Mary Landrieu (D, LA) - 225-383-0331
John Kerry (D, MA) - 617-565-8519
Ben Cardin (D, MD) - (410) 962-4436
Barbra Mikulski (D, MD) - (410) 962-4510
Olympia Snowe (R, ME) - (207) 874-0883
Susan Collins (R, ME) - (207) 780-3575
Debbie Stabenow (D, MI) - (616)-975-0052
Amy Klobuchar (D, MN) - 612-727-5220
Thad Cochren (R, MS) - (601)-965-4459
Roger Wicker (R, MS) - (601)-965-4644
Claire McCaskill (D, MO) - 314-367-1364
Roy Blunt (R, MO) - (816) 471-7141
Mike Johanns (R, NE) - (308) 236-7602
Robert Menendez (D, NJ) - (973) 645-3030
Frank Lautenberg (D, NJ) - (973) 639-8700
Jeff Bingham (D, NM) - (505) 346-6601
Chuck Schumer (D, NY) - 212-486-4430
Kristen Gillibrand (D, NY) - (212) 688-6262
Kay Hagen (D, NC) - 336-333-5311
Rob Portman (R, OH) - 216-522-7095
Tom Coburn (R, OK) - 918-581-7651
James Inhofe (R, OK) - (918) 748-5111
Rob Casey (D, PA) - (717) 231-7540
Lamar Alexander (R, TN) - (615) 736-5129
Bob Corker (R, TN) - 615-279-8125
Kay Baliey Hutchenson (R, TX) - 214-361-3500
Orrin Hatch (R, UT) - (801) 524-4380
Bernie Sanders (I, VT) - (800)339-9834
Patrick Leahy (D, VT) - (802) 863-2525
Mark Warner (D, VA) - 804-775-2314
Maria Cantwell (D, WA) - 206-220-6400
Patty Murray (D, WA) - (206) 553-5545
Herb Kohl (D, WI) - 414-297-4451
Ron Johnson (R, WI) - 920-230-7070
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Re: Stop SOPA

Postby gcninja » 12 Jan 2012, 21:30

John McCain (R, AZ) - (602) 952-2410

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