Price of liberty is eternal vigilance. (censorship bill)

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Price of liberty is eternal vigilance. (censorship bill)

Postby Rikadyn » 04 Apr 2012, 06:43

https://torrentfreak.com/draconian-privacy-invasion-bill-continues-to-gain-support-120404/

The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) hasn’t received a whole lot of media attention yet, but it continues to pick up support from legislators.

The bill is touted as being much worse than SOPA when it comes to privacy invasions.

Just as SOPA put an emphasis on piracy, CISPA also appears to include the infringement of intellectual property as a security threat warranting access to user data. The definition of “theft or misappropriation of private or government information” is given four times throughout the bill H.R. 3523.



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Postby Geoff_B » 04 Apr 2012, 07:04

Determined aren't they?
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Postby Psyclone » 04 Apr 2012, 07:47

THE INTERNET IS SCARY. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. WE MUST KILL IT.
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Postby Geoff_B » 04 Apr 2012, 07:55

It just wants to be our friend!
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Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 04 Apr 2012, 08:43

Did TV ever cause this much satanicness? Or are people just a lot more vocal these days.
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Postby Lyinginbedmon » 04 Apr 2012, 09:11

TV didn't allow every human being with a cheap and affordable device to share information globally without regard for how they obtained it.
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Postby Alja-Markir » 04 Apr 2012, 11:59

Television did produce some small scares early on, as did radio, but nowhere near as big. The difference is that those technologies developed over longer periods of time, taking decades to become commercial successes and household staples. Their gradual introduction, as well as their much simpler functions and capabilities, made it easy for legislators to understand them.

The internet is about 30 years old, pretty much the age at which radio became widespread. The technical potential had been around for years, but it took decades to become popular and successful, aided by miniaturization and technical refinements. The difference now is in complexity. Radio is a relatively simple concept for legislators to grasp and weigh, whereas the internet is not.

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Postby Metcarfre » 04 Apr 2012, 12:09

I would say it's partially complexity, but mostly because it's just so darn hard to control! (If you're gov't or a business).
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Postby empath » 04 Apr 2012, 12:20

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Postby EnglishMQ » 04 Apr 2012, 12:23

It's like that guy saying, "O.K, I'm walking away now, just walk away, walking away, going up these stairs, in my room and KILL IT WITH FIRE

They really don't like what the Internet represents.
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Postby empath » 04 Apr 2012, 12:24

What, independent thought?
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Postby Season's Beatings » 04 Apr 2012, 14:37

empath wrote:What, independent thought?

Yes, because that bill isn't aimed at criminal elements online. Its just The Man beating down your door for having 'original' ideas.

Who has read the bill? Hands up now. I've skimmed it. What is it about, I hear you ask (all the wrong internet pundits and general fuckwads). Its not about SOPA or PIPA or even videogame piracy at all. Its not the ever present threat of being 'vaguely worded'. That is a buzz term for I can't understand this shit so it must be bad. Seriously, nobody can tell me exactly how SOPA/PIPA/ or this is vaguely worded without a really vague answer consisting of its vaguely worded and nothing more.

This bill is to give more power to prosecute people who leak trade secrets and private information as well as giving more recourse to go after hackers who take it by force.

Before taking your favourite 'internet journalist' opinions and ill researched ramblings as fact, try doing some research for yourselves. Sheep.
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Postby theDreamer » 04 Apr 2012, 15:06

The law literally says "if you hire/are a cyber security firm, you may share any information percieved to be a cyber security threat with any OTHER company with/is a cyber security firm, and are protected from civil and criminal suits related to both acting and not acting on information gathered in this way."
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Postby Metcarfre » 04 Apr 2012, 15:07

@Seasons I seem to recall you being OK with idea of commercial bodies forcing ISPs to divulge customer information without warrants. Is that true?
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Postby Rikadyn » 04 Apr 2012, 16:10

ISPs have the power to collect information about your Internet use.

The RIAA/MPAA/etc can contract with your ISP to obtain this information.

This information is "proprietary" -- you don't have the right to know what info they're collecting on you.

The ISP is exempt from all legal and criminal action for surveillance under this bill.
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Postby Lyinginbedmon » 04 Apr 2012, 16:23

In short it basically legalises spying on you.
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Re: Price of liberty is eternal vigilance. (censorship bill)

Postby goat » 04 Apr 2012, 17:08

Can we seriously just get an internet bill of rights together?
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Postby theDreamer » 04 Apr 2012, 17:09

I think it's called the constitution?

"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of ha-penis."

That should sum it up.
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Re: Price of liberty is eternal vigilance. (censorship bill)

Postby empath » 04 Apr 2012, 17:25

Season's Beatings wrote:
empath wrote:What, independent thought?

Yes, because that bill isn't aimed at criminal elements online. Its just The Man beating down your door for having 'original' ideas.

Who has read the bill? Hands up now. I've skimmed it. What is it about, I hear you ask (all the wrong internet pundits and general fuckwads). Its not about SOPA or PIPA or even videogame piracy at all. Its not the ever present threat of being 'vaguely worded'. That is a buzz term for I can't understand this shit so it must be bad. Seriously, nobody can tell me exactly how SOPA/PIPA/ or this is vaguely worded without a really vague answer consisting of its vaguely worded and nothing more.

This bill is to give more power to prosecute people who leak trade secrets and private information as well as giving more recourse to go after hackers who take it by force.

Before taking your favourite 'internet journalist' opinions and ill researched ramblings as fact, try doing some research for yourselves. Sheep.


theDreamer wrote:The law literally says "if you hire/are a cyber security firm, you may share any information percieved to be a cyber security threat with any OTHER company with/is a cyber security firm, and are protected from civil and criminal suits related to both acting and not acting on information gathered in this way."
Lyinginbedmon wrote:In short it basically legalises spying on you.


My previous question still stands. :|



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