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Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 16 Aug 2013, 10:32

Darkobra wrote:I cannot STAND people that hide behind a self-diagnosed disability to cover up for their behaviour.

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I have a polar opposite problem.

I have dyspraxia (diagnosed when I was a child), so I have some difficulties such as understanding language and limb control difficulties. These are quite insignificant and thus I have never requested any "special treatment" for it. Any other challenges I cannot say is dyspraxia because they're things *everyone* has, like doubting received wisdom/instruction, social anxiety. But, the annoying thing is, it COULD contribute to these things and make them WORSE. But I have no leg to stand on to say "Yes, I have difficulty socialising with new people because of my Dyspraxia."

Because I don't request help/aid at say job interviews/exams/tests... I get treated like a retard sometimes if I have to ask someone to say something again/ask instruction again/be clumsy.

Doesn't help that people aren't familiar with Dyspraxia. Dyslexia is the "famous" one.
And sometimes people think I invented Dyspraxia. Doesn't help that if they know me, I have a dry sense of humour.
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Postby 2stepz » 16 Aug 2013, 11:08

I finally dragged my butt to the doctors office today to request tests that I think will help ID what has kept me in this never-ending funk. I walked in with a laundry list of my symptoms (from lethargy, apathy, no appetite, problems falling asleep, significant weight gain despite no appetite, etc.) along with what I had deduced the problem to be. He agreed with running the tests. Finally, a student health doctor that actually listens. I guess knowing what I want done helped?

Of course, after getting the doc to agree to the test... they couldn't get a full vial of blood to RUN the tests. I hope they got enough, but I'm not confident in that.
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Postby My pseudonym is Ix » 16 Aug 2013, 13:18

Meh, worst case scenario they have to get another sample, but jhonestly I doubt it will be an issue. Just good that there's been progress really.
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Postby My pseudonym is Ix » 16 Aug 2013, 13:28

Darkobra wrote:I cannot STAND people that hide behind a self-diagnosed disability to cover up for their behaviour.

One of my friends told me she knows someone that just googled up what autism is and said "I must be autistic!" No, you're a self-centred, lazy, useless idiot who pins his problems on the world being at fault while spending thousands of pounds on CRAP YOU DON'T NEED!

So every time someone calls him out on his behaviour, he goes "Yeah well I'm autistic!" NO doctor diagnosis, of which the doctor he's been seeing for years would have caught on. Just looking for a scapegoat to be a dick!

And what greatly offends me more is when people hide behind mental problems they don't have. My brother has dyspraxia. He has severe problems. But he thinks he's fine and nothing wrong with him. THAT is how they think. When he goes on a tantrum, he doesn't say "So what? I'm disabled and I can get away with it!" He just rants and raves and I have to help him fix things or he'll get physically violent!

And my friend also knows someone very well with autism. He's actually a very intelligent man deep down. But nobody can really get the chance to see it with his autism and he has difficulties with communication. He doesn't really speak and because he CAN'T really speak, he ALSO tends to lash out.

So this useless being self-diagnosing what is a VERY serious issue and using that as an excuse to be a total dick to people instead of getting himself checked at a doctor? Well, I have a huge problem with that. And I said to her "So what did the doctor say about his autism?"
"Nothing. He doesn't have it. He THINKS he does and won't believe anyone else."

I pray I never meet him.

Apologies for the double post, but felt aneed to share; I think I've mentioned it before, but there is a very credible school of thought that states nearly all mental health issues are simply normal parts of the human psyche that become exaggerate; so perfectionism becomes OCD (bad comparison for those who have experience with OCD but it's a demonstrative turn of phrase), unhappiness becomes depression, anxiousness becomes anxiety disorder and so on. This makes it very easy to recognise aspects of severe mental health issues in oneself from a description alone as we all experience the same to a far lesser degree, and because without proper first hand experience of the disease in question a description is inadequate. It could be argued, therefore, that self diagnosis ofmental health issues is a side effect of poor understanding of them generally.
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Postby TheGhostOfZero » 16 Aug 2013, 18:05

My sister...

She's down for the second time in two years, but she's staying with her Melbourne friends, and I can only see her today. For dinner with her friends. The majority of whom I don't like. After which she's going straight back to her friend's place to "get drunk and high."
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Postby Deedles » 17 Aug 2013, 06:43

Darkobra wrote:I cannot STAND people that hide behind a self-diagnosed disability to cover up for their behaviour.

One of my friends told me she...[awesome post continues]


Exactly, that's why I, when I thought I had social anxiety, sought professional help rather quickly to
1. Get a diagnosis
2. Get some help
And that I have, had my last appointment with my psychologist yesterday. I still have a ways to go, but it feels good to have some techniques to battle my social anxiety, and it also felt good to get to know that I could refer people to an official diagnosis if they ever accused me of 'simply being shy', something which I despise because it feels so demeaning to the anxiety and anguish that social situations often cause me to feel.
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Postby Master Gunner » 17 Aug 2013, 16:00

Bah, why can't I just be happy for people instead of constantly projecting my own issues on them?

Also, I know what I can do to help fix my issues, so why the hell aren't I doing those things?
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Postby Darkobra » 18 Aug 2013, 12:47

You know what annoys me? When people say "Well that's YOUR opinion!"

When did I state it as otherwise?!

"I don't like that show. It drags on too long to get to the good parts."
"Well that's YOUR opinion!"
"My opinion is also that you're highly irritating. It's a commonly shared one!"
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Postby empath » 18 Aug 2013, 16:44

Just boop their nose and then say "you MEAN 'I disagree with your opinion' - just leaving shit to be understood implicitly is a great way to foster misunderstanding"


So, guess which guy got left holding the bag AGAIN?

3pm-8pm, helping out someone else working 3pm-10pm on a fairly quiet Sunday night.

Walk down, get changed and find out the 3-10 guy called in sick at the last minute.

So now, when the 'day shift' leaves at 5pm, I've got three hours to get eight man-hours worth of work done. :|

...and the one big advantage of having two people staffing earlier in the evening is that one can stop and take care of customers while the other keeps getting clean-up, next-day-prep done.

On your own? Yeah, good luck with that - start prioritizing what has to be done, and what is gonna have to be left unfinished. And start crossing more shit off the list when someone wants five different types of meat shaved...

And to make matters even MORE fun, one of the sushi girls (I didn't know they worked Sunday nights; they're usually gone from that kiosk by 5pm most days) came over to mention that their freezer (which is located in our department along with an under-counter cooler they use) had stopped working...it was 7:30pm

So I got to take the note listing the things I'd left undone for the morning people tomorrow, and amended that whoever was in charge should probably check out this freezer and see about getting someone in.

...and the warehouse guy came by just as I was gonna leave - the salad kits for the deli just came in; I managed to plead the guy into keeping the TWO PALLETS of the damn things out in their dairy cooler until people came in tomorrow morning...and had to go back and add ANOTHER postscript to my note. :P


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Postby Mums » 19 Aug 2013, 03:54

Bah, whyyyy did I not take the exam this spring? Why did I not study for it this summer, why do I always end up having to study like crazy the last days?

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Postby Geoff_B » 19 Aug 2013, 04:52

Left my hat on the bus this morning on the way to work.

I leave for holiday tomorrow morning.

This vexes me somewhat.
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Postby Darkobra » 19 Aug 2013, 13:53

I must not kill. I'll be playing right into their hands. They WANT me to kill them. THAT'S why they're so stupid. It's a conspiracy. They're all in on it. It is biologically impossible for people to be THAT stupid.
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Postby My pseudonym is Ix » 19 Aug 2013, 13:58

To quote... something I either heard or made up once, "Stupidity is apparently all too frequently viewed as a 'Challenge Accepted' situation"
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Postby Avistew » 19 Aug 2013, 14:26

I am so incredibly frustrated with the mortgage company.

My mother-in-law died in May, which I believe I've mentioned... if not, now you know.
Anyways, Sean had been paying mortgages on two houses, both of which were in her name because his credit was too bad, even though he was the one actually paying the money. One of the deeds had his name on it, the other didn't, as we learned in the past few months when we ended up losing that house as a result.

The one that has his name on it, that we live in, is the one causing my venting right now:
We informed the company back in May of her death. They said we had to wait 40 days, and wouldn't let us pay the mortgage. So we waited.
Now it's been about three months of them calling and writing letters, asking for her and threatening foreclosure. Every time the person on the phone is completely shocked to learn she's dead and restate that no, we can't pay the money we've been wanting to pay all along.
I've tried bringing the death certificate and they've refused it, saying they only want it once Sean is named executor of the estate. Which hasn't happened yet although we've finally applied on our own after 2 months of no lawyers getting back to me.

Now the last letter, received today, says we need to pay it all by September 19th or they'll start foreclosure. We don't even have the date of the hearing for Sean being named executor, so I have no idea if he will be by then.

I am so frustrated, we're getting several calls a day and not one person has been willing to update the file to at least say she's dead. They refuse the money, they refuse the death certificate, and yet they keep acting like we're the ones refusing to pay.

I don't know what to do at this point. This is the house where we live, I have no idea what we can do if we end up losing it. I don't understand why his being on the deed isn't enough, the house officially belongs to him, we have the money and want to pay, but we're not authorised and in the meantime, every day there are a few calls, and every day a new letter.

Why are they so terribly organised that in three months of daily calls, nobody knows she's dead yet? I'm sure I've spoken to the same people several times.
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Postby JustAName » 20 Aug 2013, 01:08

I'm so tired of people thinking that any comment about misogyny is a challenge to immediately start shouting about how guys have it bad, too. I'm tired of people seeing someone comment on a bad thing that happened to a woman, without even commenting on sexism at all, and have to respond vitriolically that bad things also happen to men, God.

If you've gotten to the point where your first reaction to hearing about someone's misfortune is to shout and scream that other people get shit handed to them in life, too, I think you have a problem. Try empathizing. Try saying, "Wow, yeah, that sucks. That shouldn't happen. Let's make it so that this doesn't happen to anyone!" If bad things happen to women, please don't go screaming, "But also misandry!" If bad things happen to men, please don't go screaming, "See? Misandry!"

I keep seeing this large population of the internet in particular that seems to feel that accusing people of being awful will help to make their point, and this is true of MRAs and second-wave feminists (and even a lot of current social justice bloggers). People posting something you don't like are most likely: a) well-intentioned, or b) trolls. If you shout and get mad at the first category, they will feel hurt and attacked, and likely stick to their original views, because to them, the people pressing other views are mean assholes. If you shout and get mad at the second category, they will enjoy it. Sure, there will be some people vigorously defending a viewpoint that you don't like, but if shouting at them only works occasionally, and is bad in every other circumstance, why would you do it?

Personal attacks are not a good way to argue in most situations that spring to mind. Please don't use them. Please don't immediately assume that the person with whom you are conversing is horrible, unreasonable, or even just stupid. Yes, some of them probably won't listen to reason. But if your main method of conversing is attack, you cannot be very productive.

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Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 20 Aug 2013, 02:34

I feel like as a society we're obsessed with pulling people down. You have 'Gossip Reporters' reporting about gossip and being very snipe and bitchy.

I saw a Youtube Gossip Report about Paris Hiltons "awful" DJ set in Brazil.
The report reader was really bitchy. Said Paris Hilton was finding talents to justify her inherited wealth and she has failed at all of them thus far and should stop trying.
(and comments below saying that the only thing she was good at was being filmed having sex...)

That annoyed me. You could argue "But Mortalis, why were you even watching the Youtube video? Were you seeking out to be offended?"
I wasn't. I thought I had found a video which was footage of her "being awful" and I wanted to watch it myself and make my own opinion. Instead I got bitchy reporter.

Thank you reporter for encouraging a mentality of don't even bother. You'll be shit and people will judge you for it. Ignore your ambition. Do something realistic and aim for stacking shelves for the rest of your life. Ambition are for nobs which we'll pull down.

I see it with TV Talent shows.
In Britain we have 3 TV Talent shows. We have Britain's Got Talent and The X Factor. And we have The Voice. The latter is on a different TV channel.

The Xfactor and Britain's Got Talent is a show where you'll have some good people on, and some awful and naff people. And the public enjoy keeping awful people on the show for entertainment. It's a public form punishment. The viewers don't care for good performers. They want to see awful people unknowingly embarrass themselves.

The Voice however doesn't do the "shit contestants" thing. Everyone on the show is good, and even amazing. Yet, The Voice gets less viewers than BGT and XF.
Why? Because The Voice doesn't have the shitters making a 'fool' of themselves. Has coaches instead of JUDGES so you don't have the 'enjoyment' of seeing poor people who get swept up getting obliterated on national TV.
The only time The Voice gets good viewing figures is during the Gimmick Rounds (like the Chair Twirling. Battles etc..)

So yes, as a society, the majority of us enjoys watching other people's hopes and dreams being massacred because they're bitter and full of hatred. They want to see people worse off than themselves so they can feel better.
It makes me wonder if they see the Documentaries during comic relief as entertainment.

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Postby empath » 20 Aug 2013, 03:04

Yep, and we as a culture have been relishing in public humiliation since before you were born...heck, before *I* was born (which is saying a bit).

The Gong Show for example. (though I am older than that one)

We really ARE a douchebag species, aren't we? :(
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Postby Darkobra » 20 Aug 2013, 03:17

Roman Colosseum. Stonings. Pushing other cavemen in the river.
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Postby JustAName » 20 Aug 2013, 03:21

Make people read more.
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Postby auberginequeen » 20 Aug 2013, 07:25

I'm taking a standardized test for the first time since the 10th grade today. This is also the first standardized test where my scores actually matter since the 4th grade. I'm kinda freaking out here. It's 4.5 hours long and you don't really get a break to eat or anything. I'm getting hungry just thinking about it.

Then after that I have to find my way home by myself in Toronto. Maybe not such a big deal if I actually spent time by myself in Toronto before. I've always been accompanied by someone who knows where they're going, and this place is kinda far from the small section of TO I know.

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Postby Mums » 20 Aug 2013, 07:30

They usually allow people to bring snacks for that kind of test, my recommendation is to bring some kind of diet bar there to give you enough energy for the whole thing.
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Postby My pseudonym is Ix » 20 Aug 2013, 08:23

Fun story; you were only allowed to bring water into my school exams, provided thatyou'd taken the label off to show you hadn't written any notes underneath it. Given that they never bothered just getting us to roll up our sleeves, I do wonder why they bothered sometimes.
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Postby nicholasmc1 » 20 Aug 2013, 14:32

My experience with long tests like that has always been that if they alot you that much time it will probably take half for someone who's even half decent to finish. The large time is for 1. Perfectionists, 2. Idiots.

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