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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 09 Nov 2012, 04:20

I like Rimmer a bit more now.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby ad134 » 09 Nov 2012, 08:21

I really loved the Series 8 ending "explanation". Also, the scene where he slams his fist down on the table is maybe my favourite scene in RDX. That or the "fear" speech.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Geoff_B » 09 Nov 2012, 08:47

Plus the plan itself. For Rimmer to have come up with that on his own :D

Also "You keelled my brother!" :D
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Darkobra » 09 Nov 2012, 09:38

"And you're a baboon, four eyes!" Had me cracking up.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 09 Nov 2012, 13:45

I kept hearing sometimes "You kissed my Brother". I was waiting for that joke to appear.

There's been a disappointing lack of implied homosexuality jokes these series.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Ed. » 09 Nov 2012, 14:27

I misread the synopsis and disappointed myself for a while but had a massive grin with "the slimes coming home".

"Hiding in an Asteroid, surrounded by a Simulant Death Ship and a fleet of Annihilators, the Dwarfers begin to wonder whether this is the beginning of the end. Only one man can save them. Unfortunately that man is Arnold J Rimmer. "
Was expecting Ace to show up.

Trolling about series 8 was excellent. Bring on series XI
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Elomin Sha » 09 Nov 2012, 14:46

I'm still wondering how Rimmer is a hologram and how he knows how he died in Series I. Did the original Rimmer hologram come back and the resurrected Rimmer take his place?
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Darkobra » 09 Nov 2012, 20:35

Well isn't the hologram made from all the ship's data and memories of the crew?
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 10 Nov 2012, 03:06

There's Original Holo Rimmer who took on Ace's legacy.
There's flesh Rimmer from the Resurrected Red Dwarf series
There's Holo Rimmer which is now.

We don't know if the latter 2 are the same or not.
If current Rimmer is the first one, then it's a huge character degeneration or a massive re-write.

All we know is that the current Rimmer died during the original Radiation leak.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Ed. » 10 Nov 2012, 11:07

The hologram isn't brain in a new body it's a computer simulation of that person so a new hologram would have all the memories up until that point.
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Postby Elomin Sha » 10 Nov 2012, 13:17

If so, he must have died saving the ship with his 'long arms'.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Geoff_B » 10 Nov 2012, 13:58

And I just had this same train of thought tonight. One the one hand this Rimmer states that he died in the radiation leak from series 1. On the other hand he is not only aware of the metal eating virus from series 8, he takes full credit for saving the ship.

Uh?

And should I be worried that my train of thought exactly mirrored the last few posts without any prior knowledge until now?
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Lyinginbedmon » 10 Nov 2012, 14:24

Well, all data from the original was available to the computers at the beginning of series 8, so there we get the basis for radiation leak-death.

Then, there's the events of series 8 to add in, data of which would also be available, depending slightly on how series 8 was actually resolved following the virus. This gets us our basis for the virus knowledge.

I think there's room to suggest there might be the odd missing piece or bug in his memory, owing to Holly and other Red Dwarf systems not being able to properly observe and inform, but all in all I think it's reasonable for this Rimmer to either know about them "first hand" or at least have been informed over the intervening years.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Geoff_B » 10 Nov 2012, 15:24

So you posit a composite Rimmer personality with memories of both incarnations?

I'll buy it for now.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby PlasmaCow » 10 Nov 2012, 19:30

makes best sense, they're certainly not gonna give a straight explanation - hand-wavium is a Red Dwarf favourite remember.
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Re: Red Dwarf X

Postby Geoff_B » 11 Nov 2012, 05:48

Maybe everything will be explained in an episode in the next series! Oh wait...
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