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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby tak197 » 22 Nov 2012, 20:26

Dubious_wolf wrote:Tak do they give you drugs for thyroid simulation?


I do have to take synthetic hormones yes, but still it is just as difficult for me to lose the weight. The only thing I have heard that can help with weight loss specific to thyroid patients is to pretty much eliminate processed foods.
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Postby Dubious_wolf » 22 Nov 2012, 20:29

:( in the US of A? corn starch capital of the planet.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Jillers » 23 Nov 2012, 12:02

I'll pimp out the site I've been using - fatsecret.com
It's a pretty good site, free to use, where you can keep track of your caloric intake and such. It's a good start. I've lost about 30 pounds since using it, and have noticed my own horrible eating patterns, such as having very poor willpower when it comes to snacking (so now I buy snacks, I just separate them into serving sizes).
And when I started drinking more water I started with adding some lemon or lime juice (freshly squeezed) into the water to give it a little flavor. And now I just live by my soda stream because I've always loved seltzer, and it gives me the fizziness of soda without the sweetness.
I haven't started a fitness regimen yet, but that's my goal for December - to start walking, and move into jogging.

I'm no expert, but in the roughly 5 months I've been doing this, the things I've learned that could help someone else is that you can't get discouraged by slow progress, because that's healthy progress. When you weigh yourself, you should do it at the same time each day you weigh yourself (and weigh yourself the same day each week, or every other week, etc...) as your weight fluctuates throughout the day and week (which I noticed while weighing myself every day multiple times a day and drove myself insane). If you overeat one day, that's ok, because the next day is a new day. Don't just cut out all unhealhty foods at once, because you can feel like you're depriving yourself, and that could make you binge eat. It's ok to include treats into your diet, just don't go overboard.

For me the biggest step to start eating right (which I don't always do) was cooking for myself and buying my own food - without doing that, I'm reliant on whatever someone else in the house buys and/or makes dinner, etc... and I have no control or idea about what they put in it or how much.

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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Avistew » 23 Nov 2012, 13:40

Since there was a question about what to eat when you don't eat meat...

First you look at what meat provides. Apart from filling your belly or tasting a certain way, it provides amino acids that you need for protein, and iron, and fat, that's the main thing. Now if it's fish it's got some oils as well.

For the protein, go for pulses/legumes. That is, lentils, beans and peas. You can also have eggs if you eat them, they're complete protein, just like quinoa, and unlike pulses or meat. Lentils are high in iron, too.

Then, if you ate a completely balanced meal when you ate meat, that's pretty much the only change you need. But a lot of people, when they look at their diet, realise they weren't eating right back then either, or not filling their specific needs. At this point, you need to get some specialised advice to check if you have deficiencies or eat too much of something. Which really is the case of most people, regardless of diet.

What is generally recommended if you want a blanket advice for vegetarians, is to combine pulses and grains. As I said, pulses include peas (except green peas. So split peas, chickpeas, peanuts), beans (including, most famously, soy, but far from restricted to it) and lentils. Grains include wheat, barley, corn, rice, etc, and of course whatever is made from them (such as bread or pasta).
Then for the other half of your plate, have vegetables. Doesn't matter if it's considered a fruit (like tomatoes or cucumbers are, for instance), if it's generally considered a vegetable, count it as one.

My ex-inlaws would always have at least 2 different vegetables in a meal, and when I grew up we always had vegetables as a first dish (for instance tomatoes and cucumber with some vinaigrette, or leek, or half an avocado, or shredded carrots), then the main dish which had its own vegetable, then a salad.

But living alone, I find it hard to cook enough vegetables, so if you have a freezer buy frozen mixes or something. I don't have one so what I do is buy endives or cucumber or celery or tomatoes, and just eat them on their own, like you would an apple.

When I'm lazy, for a vegetarian meal I take a can of couscous vegetables, I put it in a bowl with some semolina and I microwave it. And then you have couscous, it has the chickpeas, the semolina and the veggies, it's simple and fast.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Metcarfre » 30 Nov 2012, 12:41

This thread is too important to let slide to the second page!

I'm thinking of changing up my workouts next year. Right now I try to lift 3x a week with a couple hours of ball hockey as well. I might change that to hockey, two lift sessions, two cardio, and maybe some yoga with the wife on the weekends.

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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Cybertrash » 30 Nov 2012, 13:23

I took up Kendo again (after a 5 year break) ~3 months ago, which is great fun and very good exercise. This in turn made me realize what kind of shape I am in, so I started running and doing burpies (as well as doing some Kendo practice at home) once a week, so that I'll have an easier time keeping up with the Kendo.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby The Jester » 30 Nov 2012, 13:44

I'm wondering about starting some kind of workout regime. Most of the reason I stopped last time was it was so dull. Anything to recommend to make it more interesting? I suspect that if I tried listening to an audio book I might lose count of the reps or pushups I'd done. :P
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Matt » 30 Nov 2012, 13:46

Ugh. January can't come fast enough. I fell completely off the running wagon after the marathon due to sickness and then piled up school work. I need to RUN.

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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Metcarfre » 30 Nov 2012, 13:52

Just find something that works. Maybe it's sports, or solo efforts like climbing, or just the satisfaction of mastering your own body. Or maybe a martial art or dance to entertain yourself.

I think you have to start with, why do I want to do this (exercise)? Is it to lose weight and be healthier? For aesthetic reasons (to look better)? To accomplish a secondary goal (climb a mountain, run a marathon, do a long-haul hike)? Or what? Once you know what you're trying to accomplish and why that is, you're in a much better position to think about what sort of routine you should have.

For me, I've found Fitocracy helps a lot since it 'gamifies' the experience and gives me a routine to adhere to. Switching my workouts from after work to early morning before work helped a lot too. I think the hardest part is getting the routine down - everything after that is details.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Dubious_wolf » 30 Nov 2012, 21:03

Yeah Met, I found that fitocracy has gotten me off the couch more than anything. I got sick this week and haven't been to the gym in 5 days. And I'm hating! I want more arbitrarily awarded points!
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Deedles » 30 Nov 2012, 21:16

I don't have the money to go to pay to go to a gym, so I decided that I'll simply start jogging and working-out at home, because my main goal is just to lose weight and toning areas like my upper arms and stomach. As long as you know what exercises to do it's not hard, it's mainly getting into the routine of doing it ... That's the part I'm working at, actually making it into a routine.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Dubious_wolf » 30 Nov 2012, 21:21

I have a gym at my apartment... And at school. I basically don't have any excuses...
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Metcarfre » 30 Nov 2012, 23:41

Deedles wrote:toning

Is not a thing.

But weight loss combined with strength training will improve muscle definition.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Deedles » 30 Nov 2012, 23:49

What I mean is that I want to work up SOME muscle in my currently weak-ass arms so that I stop being weak-ass and also don't walk around with huge bingo-wings.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby AdmiralMemo » 01 Dec 2012, 09:45

I'm trying to get off soda by drinking an equal amount of water before I can have another soda. Seems to be slowly working.

Also, tea is the best.

I need some exercise, though... Been thinking about buying an exercise bike and a laptop.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Metcarfre » 01 Dec 2012, 10:43

Do you already have a bicycle? Because you can get an indoor training mount for it for $100 new, probably much less used.

Cycling's good cardio if you do it right.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby AdmiralMemo » 01 Dec 2012, 10:51

I have a bike that is probably rusting itself under the porch...
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby MrPayneTrayne » 01 Dec 2012, 11:55

I like to think of it this way, and I've fallen off the wagon like everyone else:

But what you're doing is not a diet. It is not a regimen, it is a lifestyle change. If you look at is as something that is temporary, you're going to get discouraged when you don't see results in that short period of time. Instead try and just make your quality of life better. That's what I've done and I was at first wildly successful before falling off the wagon.

If you overeat, or eat bad remember it wasn't a cheat, it was a choice. You have to make sure you hold yourself accountable.

I also suggest Starting Strength or Kris Gethin's 12week program to anyone looking to build up some muscle.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Metcarfre » 01 Dec 2012, 12:39

That's a really good point.

Another thing that helped me was thinking about diet and exercise differently than I had before. Think about it and other beneficial things you want to do in your like as priorities. Don't say, "I'm too tired to work out", think, "sleeping in is more of a priority than exercise". Don't think, "I don't have time to track what I'm eating", think, "It's not a priority".

Once you start thinking about things like this, you can analyze what you really prioritize in your life. How much time are you watching TV, playing video games, sleeping, surfing the internet, working, volunteering, creating stuff, school, learning things, exercise... Once you stop saying "I can't do X because Y" and start thinking "I can't do X because it's lower priority than other things", you'll find yourself changing your habits for the better. Hopefully.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Dubious_wolf » 10 Jan 2013, 01:32

Recently ive decided to try out this "clean" eating. Not for dieting purposes necessarily. But more to see if i can clear up some digestive problems ive been having recently.
A lot of the books ive seen however seems to be targeted towards women and further targeted towards mothers. Now I fit under none of these catagories and was curious if anyone knew of a clean and fresh eating diet book for young men still in college?
Also if we could keep it reasonably priced.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby Avistew » 10 Jan 2013, 01:45

Well the mother part probably doesn't apply if they give advice targeted towards pregnancy or cooking for children, but otherwise I can't imagine why the advice for men and women would be so dramatically different in terms of what kind of things to eat.

In other words, I'm not aware of such a book (although I'm sure they exist). For cheap stuff, you can check online, there is a lot of advice targeted towards poor students.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby My pseudonym is Ix » 10 Jan 2013, 08:39

For anyone into the idea of working out/the exercise end of the stick, but who doesn't want all the general blergh associated with a gym, can I recommend Mark Lauren's "You Are Your Own Gym". His basic advice is well-grounded (although he takes a... slightly interesting direction concerning nutrition that I prefer to scale down) and provides a solid basis from which to spin off other ideas, but more importantly he lists four programs, lays out a detailed structure and offers several hundred exercises based on one's bodyweight. As he explains, such exercise has tangible weight loss, as well as strength, benefits, and can be adapted almost infinitely; but best of all it's something good, structured and easy to follow that takes half an hour of your time, four times a week, in the comfort of your own home.
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Re: The weight/eat right/ whatever thread

Postby 2stepz » 10 Jan 2013, 09:19

Fitocracy FINALLY released for Android. About. Damn. Time.

cross country hiking across winter-deadened corn fields... is muddy, a balancing act, and one helluva workout. Too bad my HRM is dead...

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