korvys wrote:Dubious_wolf wrote:This would seem to further illustrate my point that the two are distinct and different and genders shouldn't be lumped together. Indeed I feel it's unhealthy to try and do so in both instances.
The thing is, wolf, when people say "You have to man up" or "be a man" or "Not a real woman", etc, these are not comments that a person is acting childish, they are saying you are acting too much like the other gender (according to societal gender roles). That is, they are saying "Be a man [not a woman]", rather than "Be a man [not a boy]".
Ultimately, aside from a few biological differences, men and women are not "distinct and different", and, for the most part should be "lumped together". Duckay's point, if I understand it correctly, is not that men and women are very different, but that people (and society as a whole) treat men and women very differently.
"Defocus and all you can see is us."
first paragraph. That's exactly the point I'm making? gender is commonly the defined as opposite of the other sex, when it needs to mean opposite of a child. It's unhealthy to differentiate it as opposite of "opposite sex".
second. Until we ascend to be clouds of ethereal consciousness and dispose of our earthly bodies those physical traits will continue to differentiate us, but those differences don't define us. I guess my point is to suppress that seems unhealthy. Gender is inherent to the human condition. Ignoring it seems carless.