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Alex Steacy wrote:The point of the shelter is to give relief to people who have been dealing with it like adults and are exhausted. It's for others to muster enough energy to go and face the day. It's for frightened people to gather and reassure one another that not everything has gone to hell (because it hasn't). No one is hiding from reality. It can't be escaped anyway. We are coping with it together.
Please understand the difference between a hole to stick your head in and a refuge to find your bearings and connect with others looking to do the same.
Hey Alex, long time no see. The way it came across when I read it seemed that it was overly protective. Could be me mucking up in understanding thinking that people just want to shut out the entire world. Ive been under the mantra I don't think is a good idea, confronting something has to happen at some point. Shut off at the beggin on the outside, to me, seems like running (I can be mistaken). I don't know if these are young people/older people, or if they have not been faced with an experience that things don't always go how they want. For me it was the EU Referendum.
That is why I asked. It would be silly for me to just make up an answer in my head.
Fayili wrote:Elomin, have you never made the point of having a nice meal or playing a game that you love after a difficult day?
Nope. My days have been no different since I was twelve.
Get up;
Go to school/work;
Nothing positive happens for me not matter how much effort I put in;
Deal with bullies/assholes (customers and work colleagues);
Come home;
Deal with marital issue between parents/deal with step-father bi-polar disorder breakdowns/little brother ilnesses/mother's health deterioration;
Spend time alone, play games, write, art, watch wrestling;
Did have one person I like talking to a lot but we haven't spoken properly in almost year and a half;
I just do things, I have nothing special in my life.
CamelKnackRambleHort wrote:Many of us are now at the mercy of people who have demonstrated a complete lack of respect and empathy towards us, who have worked tirelessly to strip us of rights and protections. These are not fake problems that are only in our heads.
You may have to look up at the meaning of begrudge again. I do not 'envy', nor do I 'give up reluctantly' or 'resentively' what some people want. In regards of disrespect, in light of recent events disrespect has not been given/received mutually exclusive to one side, in the political sphere.
I never mentioned or hinted at something someone experienced as being fake. Don't create something out of what I did NOT say. Empathy cannot be given if someone has not gone through something similar, you may have meant sympathy. Example: I cannot be empathic to someone who has lost a grandparent because it has not happened to me. Give it a couple years and it will happen and I will be able to have empathy to someone in the same regard. I'm prepared for it as I can be, I won't like it, but it will happen soon be it death or the signs of dementia that have already started showing.
ReilaOda wrote:Your nay saying is indicative of a fundamental misunderstanding of what we're doing. Firstly political opinions aren't really happening in the chat to begin with, as a result no one is really echo chambering because politics aren't happening. People are scared, and you're arguing people conquer that fear, and we are. We're supporting our fellow human being by helping them out in a time of need. You're one of those bulldozers like I am that just windmills into battle smashing problems as you go. I get that.
Not everyone has that mentality or capacity to do so. As a result it's up to those of us in positions of strength to sooth those fears and get to a more even and rational keel. [unnecessary extra space] If this isn't to your liking you can simply not watch/ignore this thread. Spreading [unnecessary extra space] negativity over a wound is just being a bully, which I doubt was your intent [Then there is no need to write that sentence]. So let's carefully word our replies here.
One: Welcome to the forum; enjoy your time here.
Two: Hi I'm Elomin Sha, resident idiot, stick in the mud, rather nice person, and doesn't take too kindly to way certain things are said falsely; which you did so I'm calling bollocks.
What did I say was nay-saying or spreading negativity? If the question is sincere, as I put it, because language through text misses the nuiance of inflextion, tone and body language; what is wrong with it logically?
At what point did I mention anything about politics? Personally I didn't want any of the main candidates to win. I also know nothing about the other two who were running. If they were the best on offer, bloody hell, things need fixing badly. But as with you bringing that up it's not important as with my attitudes to what has happened, and has no relevance with what I wrote.
There was nothing fundamentally wrong with what I asked, unless asking a question is now considered wrong. As the word respected has already been used (and not replied on since by the originator), only two people have been respectful in response: Alex and Danielle. Camel I'm not going to hold up it up to because that would be using their erroneous word against them.
You're new here, you don't know me. They do. You don't know how I respsond. They know HOW to talk, and HOW to respond. Everyone is different, you said that so much in regards to dealing with something with mental capacity.
If I was abhorrantly and fundementally misunderstood to the situation I would have written: "Oh boo hoo cry babies, go to the library and get a spine." I didn't. Perhaps using adult to some can be an insult but adult was inferred as being steeled through years of exprience of how a world works (as good or as bad as it has been in history). I don't want to be an adult. It means having to get a mortgage.
Fundamentally wrong is coming in guns blazing with a silly accusation of being a bull (despite there being a caveate at the end to cover yourself). I do not know who you are, its a given, but in a new place where you don't know an eco-system, shouting out is not a good idea. It's happened here before; Yukikaze, Ottoman, stinkychops. Names you do not know but all have done something similar, they were worse so I won't equate you to themm one-hundred percent. They were arrogant, tosspots and petchulant children, and we dealt with them calmly to begin with, escalating rationally when required.
You may have missed my earlier post thanking Danielle, and old friend, for the invite but I declined, respectively.
If you choose to respond, please respond to the next question first with a Yes or No answer. THEN explain your answer.
Is asking an, again, sincerely stated question really being a bully? If yes then you have no real clue (without knowing your life, but with what you just wrote) what a bully is.
Here is a real example:
Shot in the leg at school;
Held up towards and almost thrown out of an almost third storey (UK storey) height window by two random older kids at school to concrete below;
Beaten repeatedly by the same people, broken window glass held up to my throat, items stolen, verbally insulted, poked, ostricised by the kids at school (on more than one occasion, through no fault of my own);
Chance of losing an eye when a metal badge was thrown at me in class striking me there, luckily the thick pin was not the side that hit me.
Sent to a school counsellor, with out parent approval, about why I was the problem of not making friends (that school was useless);
All of that was because I was English in two Welsh schools, and this lasted for five years. These were caused by individuals and repeat offenders.
ReilaOda wrote:So let's carefully word our replies here.
Yet, you chose not to.
Do you know what happens to people who don't carefully word their replies? Do you? Do you know what happens?
Well, I'm going to tell you what happens.But I have no list, I have a bag. The bag contains everything, there is no outside the bag, just the inside. Everything on the inside is on fire and so are you.
Get in the bag!You may have noticed I'm not taking you seriously as a person for the contents on your first post here, and how it was conducted. You came in saying things that bore no relevance to what was said. So Vorox understands, that is disrespect. My reply can be seen as such, or it would be if there was respect to begin with. I can't disrespect someone if I have none. As stated: earned not given. I will listen and I will hear anyone (or in this case read) and come to my own conclusion based upon that. In this case you, Oda, are not ranking compared to others I know. I've had, not so much, issues but discussions, with Fayili a month or so back. Yes they were abrassive at times, but she still has my respect because, as with Alex and Danielle, we know each other on some level.
TL;DR breakdown:
Sincere question;
Response of assumption with applied accusation, and possibly not reading an earlier response I made;
Rebuttal addressing what was ACTUALLY said even handedly; followed by not taking responder seriously;
You did not conduct yourself adequately and I reply not quite in kind. As I said, resident idiot.
Have a good day, hopefully the streams go well for you all.
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