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Postby TheRocket » 09 Jul 2007, 14:09

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Postby Patch » 09 Jul 2007, 14:30

TheRocketSiobhan wrote:Patch, your avatar is the greatest.

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Postby Matt » 09 Jul 2007, 15:58

as a non-smoking canadian taxpayer, a portion of my income every year is spent on health care benefits received by the 50% of smokers who die of smoking related illness. Until such a time as smoking related illness is no longer covered by canada's health care system, I could care fucking less how much of a goddamn inconvenience a smoking ban is to smokers. quit your fucking whining, I'm paying a portion of the medical bills you're inevitably going to have.

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Postby Wraith » 09 Jul 2007, 21:55

Matt wrote:as a non-smoking canadian taxpayer, a portion of my income every year is spent on health care benefits received by the 50% of smokers who die of smoking related illness. Until such a time as smoking related illness is no longer covered by canada's health care system, I could care fucking less how much of a goddamn inconvenience a smoking ban is to smokers. quit your fucking whining, I'm paying a portion of the medical bills you're inevitably going to have.

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That's pretty much my biggest beef with socialized medicine. I went to a club once where some asshat was high on something or other and decided that taking the stairs would be to slow, so he jumped from the third floor. He lived (largely because helanded on people before hitting the floor) but he was pretty messed up.

I don't want the government taking money from me to help take care of that moron.

Basically, I would love free healthcare, and there's no question that the sytem in my country is broke as hell, but the idea that someone who exercises six days a week, eats healthy, doesn't touch drugs or alchohol and would probably rarely need more than an anual checkup has to foot as much of the nation's medical bill as some chain-smoking, drug-using, over-eating slob really sucks.
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Postby Matt » 09 Jul 2007, 22:34

Wraith wrote:
Matt wrote:as a non-smoking canadian taxpayer, a portion of my income every year is spent on health care benefits received by the 50% of smokers who die of smoking related illness. Until such a time as smoking related illness is no longer covered by canada's health care system, I could care fucking less how much of a goddamn inconvenience a smoking ban is to smokers. quit your fucking whining, I'm paying a portion of the medical bills you're inevitably going to have.

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That's pretty much my biggest beef with socialized medicine. I went to a club once where some asshat was high on something or other and decided that taking the stairs would be to slow, so he jumped from the third floor. He lived (largely because helanded on people before hitting the floor) but he was pretty messed up.

I don't want the government taking money from me to help take care of that moron.

Basically, I would love free healthcare, and there's no question that the sytem in my country is broke as hell, but the idea that someone who exercises six days a week, eats healthy, doesn't touch drugs or alchohol and would probably rarely need more than an anual checkup has to foot as much of the nation's medical bill as some chain-smoking, drug-using, over-eating slob really sucks.


in all fairness though, the portion of your taxes that actually go to funding health care are relatively small. you'd probably pay less into public healthcare than you would into private medical insurance over the course of your life.

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Postby tak197 » 09 Jul 2007, 23:53

Matt wrote:in all fairness though, the portion of your taxes that actually go to funding health care are relatively small. you'd probably pay less into public healthcare than you would into private medical insurance over the course of your life.

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And that's because you don't have some fucked up law saying that "making a profit for your shareholders is more important helping clients" throwing wrenches in the works. That's why privatized healthcare is so out of control. It is illegal to not make the most money to pay back your shareholders if you own the business. And the only way that health insurance companies can get by on making a profit is if they don't pay out claims.

Just so you all know, I will be taking a class on this stuff in the fall, because I have to know the bullshitting that goes on if I am going to ever work in hospitals and or operate my own private practice.
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