The Rant- Scenesters & Snobbery
The Rant- Scenesters & Snobbery
Another early update this week. Paul's still out of town, and I'm busy all evening, so there you are.
I'm coming down from a bit of a cold... can't tell can you?
I must say, I do dislike that whole attitude of holier-than-thou music fans. I'm more of a jerk in my rants than I am in real life, but I do hate those pricks.
Also, check out my most rock-assinest Advent Children action figures in the backround there.
-G
I'm coming down from a bit of a cold... can't tell can you?
I must say, I do dislike that whole attitude of holier-than-thou music fans. I'm more of a jerk in my rants than I am in real life, but I do hate those pricks.
Also, check out my most rock-assinest Advent Children action figures in the backround there.
-G
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They deveop a personal bond with the band in highschool, but when they get to... highschool, where the campus plays them 24-7, they're crushed. O.o
Let's carefully examine that sentence, shall we?
^_^ I always enjoy hearing Graham rant (or at least recite lines in a rant-type way). But I -can- tell you've just been sick - get well soon! (Or perish!)
Let's carefully examine that sentence, shall we?
^_^ I always enjoy hearing Graham rant (or at least recite lines in a rant-type way). But I -can- tell you've just been sick - get well soon! (Or perish!)
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That scene can be a little insular at times. My favorite example: A few years ago, I took some friends with me to this skid-row-indie-rocker soccer deal that they used to have at Vic High. Don't get me wrong: soccer is great fun, more fun with idiotic tomfoolery and beers in a non-competitive environment--but the people in that scene did consistently snob anyone else who I took along. They went out of their way to do so. Afterwards there was a Twin Peaks watching posse that commenced, and it was often the same thing then. One time, one of the young ladies took the time out to tell another young girl--whom I had brought, and who happened to have dreadlocks--that she hated hippies. Ironically enough, the girl who said this was wearing a "down with emo snobbery" tee. The funny thing is that the scene developed its attitude as a reaction to the snobbery and bullying of other groups in high school. Yet, it has ended up becoming--in some circles--cliqueish and demeaning, very much the same as those other groups. I suppose this is a tendancy among reactionary groups.
The conformity is also ironic, I've had some friends in the same scene who honestly told me that my pants were too baggy, and so I looked like a "stad" (short for "status points" Breakfast Club fans read: prep or jock).
With all that said, I can see the appeal, it's nice to hang out with people who have similar interests, and from experience, a Frog Eyes (for example) show does tend to be less of a meatmarket, and have less of a potential for people being jerks to me than say, a generic fratboy mainstream rock show. Then again, the same could be said of a nice jazz show, although jazz snobs can be just as cold as--if less popular right now than--indie kids.
The conformity is also ironic, I've had some friends in the same scene who honestly told me that my pants were too baggy, and so I looked like a "stad" (short for "status points" Breakfast Club fans read: prep or jock).
With all that said, I can see the appeal, it's nice to hang out with people who have similar interests, and from experience, a Frog Eyes (for example) show does tend to be less of a meatmarket, and have less of a potential for people being jerks to me than say, a generic fratboy mainstream rock show. Then again, the same could be said of a nice jazz show, although jazz snobs can be just as cold as--if less popular right now than--indie kids.
"A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought."
- Lord Peter Wimsey (Dorothy Leigh Sayers, "Gaudy Night")
- Lord Peter Wimsey (Dorothy Leigh Sayers, "Gaudy Night")
Altogether very well done, Graham.. you've hit the nail on the head. As for myself, I do enjoy music, and am somewhat of a collector, but I met enough music snobs as a teen hanging out at the Little Fernwood and other all ages venues... I don't know many any more, thankfully.
In summary:
I do like Frog Eyes (and other bands YOU'VE never heard of)
...but I do dislike scenesters, strongly.
I have mixed feelings about Jay Watts.
In summary:
I do like Frog Eyes (and other bands YOU'VE never heard of)
...but I do dislike scenesters, strongly.
I have mixed feelings about Jay Watts.
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I have to admit, I used to be a major Music Snob... but I've gotten over it.
I used to be, and this an exact quote!!! "Well, as far as I'm concerned I'm right and you're shit." now, in my defence, I really hated this guy I said it to... but also in my defence, he called Green Day posers.
Now I'm more "You're never heard of Soul Coughing? Oh wow... you should really check them out. I have all their albums if you wanna borrow one."
p.s. if you haven't, check out Soul Coughing. Fully Retractable, Rare Star Ball, St. Louise is Listening, and Circles are some of their best.(those are the song names, btw)
p.p.s. Graham, I checked out The Arcade Fire... Not bad, but you're right... merely decent. And their songs are too long. And would it kill the singer to speak up?
I used to be, and this an exact quote!!! "Well, as far as I'm concerned I'm right and you're shit." now, in my defence, I really hated this guy I said it to... but also in my defence, he called Green Day posers.
Now I'm more "You're never heard of Soul Coughing? Oh wow... you should really check them out. I have all their albums if you wanna borrow one."
p.s. if you haven't, check out Soul Coughing. Fully Retractable, Rare Star Ball, St. Louise is Listening, and Circles are some of their best.(those are the song names, btw)
p.p.s. Graham, I checked out The Arcade Fire... Not bad, but you're right... merely decent. And their songs are too long. And would it kill the singer to speak up?
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Beep beep boop:
Oh, I've never met Jay. The only member of Ghosts that I have spoken with is Brad, and he seems like a pretty nice guy.
Green Day: I don't know whether they're posers or not, but whenever a new song comes out I feel like I've already heard it in their catalogue before. I suppose that's because they've been in the spotlight for so long though, so after endless supermarket line-up/mall/anywhere-with-a-radio repetitions of their songs, they've lost their charm.
Arcade Fire: Pretty enjoyable. I like them more than the generic indie-ish rock, like the Killers, Bloc Party and Franz Ferdinand, but they'll never take the place of any of my favorite bands in my playlist. Then again, this is always changing: it's September so the old stand-bys like Elliott Smith are being pulled out again, with some Mirah/Microphones and Nick Drake.
Oh, I've never met Jay. The only member of Ghosts that I have spoken with is Brad, and he seems like a pretty nice guy.
Green Day: I don't know whether they're posers or not, but whenever a new song comes out I feel like I've already heard it in their catalogue before. I suppose that's because they've been in the spotlight for so long though, so after endless supermarket line-up/mall/anywhere-with-a-radio repetitions of their songs, they've lost their charm.
Arcade Fire: Pretty enjoyable. I like them more than the generic indie-ish rock, like the Killers, Bloc Party and Franz Ferdinand, but they'll never take the place of any of my favorite bands in my playlist. Then again, this is always changing: it's September so the old stand-bys like Elliott Smith are being pulled out again, with some Mirah/Microphones and Nick Drake.
"A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought."
- Lord Peter Wimsey (Dorothy Leigh Sayers, "Gaudy Night")
- Lord Peter Wimsey (Dorothy Leigh Sayers, "Gaudy Night")
I know I'm late to the show on this one, but I just watched it and basked in the awesomeness.
Graham, if I had the ability to pull a "Being John Malkovitch," right now I would take control of Kathleen's body and come fuck you with it. Long and hard, until you got me pregnant.
Sorry, Kathleen.
Bravo.
Graham, if I had the ability to pull a "Being John Malkovitch," right now I would take control of Kathleen's body and come fuck you with it. Long and hard, until you got me pregnant.
Sorry, Kathleen.
Bravo.
If I wasn't a guy, why would I need to borrow Kathleen's body for awesome Graham lovin'?
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And I still get a laugh out of "Question 1: Are you cool? Question 2: Did you answer the above question ironically?"
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