The Not Having Sex Thread

[2stepz]

NOW you're hungry.

[GaProgMan]

*looks at the insta-noodles he made for him self*
..
*looks at the pic that 2stepz posted*
...
*A single tear falls from his eye*

[Geoff_B]

OM NOM NOM!

Now you can make some more for everyone else

[Fenrir]

Wait wait wait....

In response...

I pay a white, a blue and five other mana....and use Over-rule. Geoff, I counter your nomming unless you pay five mana. *pokerface*

[Dibria]

I pay a white, a blue and five other mana....and use Over-rule. Geoff, I counter your nomming unless you pay five mana. *pokerface*

Magic the Gathering references in the Not Having Sex thread, way to prove some stereotypes...

[Dutch guy]

uhhhhhhhhh...

Lightningbolt!

[Fenrir]

I pay a white, a blue and five other mana....and use Over-rule. Geoff, I counter your nomming unless you pay five mana. *pokerface*

Magic the Gathering references in the Not Having Sex thread, way to prove some stereotypes...

You're making the very common mistake of confusing me with someone who gives a rats ass ....

Besides - I think we *all* know it was bound to happen eventually.

[ex-Lurker]

One can always hope.

[Askwho]

For shear acuaracy, +1 to whatevever cout we have got to. Count this as a purmalurk. Not good with the actual human interaction.

[GaProgMan]

I pay a white, a blue and five other mana....and use Over-rule. Geoff, I counter your nomming unless you pay five mana. *pokerface*

I'll raise my hand and say that I, genuinely, don't have a clue what this refers to

[Geoff_B]

I tap three blue and use Cancel. Your Over-rule is hereby overruled.

[Fenrir]

@ Ga - Magic : The Gathering
@ Geoff - *highfive*

[Dibria]

I pay two and redirect both of you to the Magic the Gathering thread.

[Fezzul]

Bump in the Night

(I don't know anything about Magic)

[Geoff_B]

@Dibria: Techically you need to use two redirects, one for each of us, but I'll let it slide.

So now that's over can we get back to eating?

[Fenrir]

Psh, spoil sport....

Yes I suppose we should get back to the eating of noms.

[MrPayneTrayne]

While at a party a girl I have been flirting with for a while cried on my shoulder about a friend of hers. Then led a guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear into the bathroom.

Guess who's not going anywhere anytime soon, this guy!

[Dibria]

While at a party a girl I have been flirting with for a while cried on my shoulder about a friend of hers. Then led a guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear into the bathroom.

Guess who's not going anywhere anytime soon, this guy!

Sometimes the 'women love bastards' concept seems to be scarily accurate... I like to pretend it's not the case but the more I think about it the more it seems true.

Why? Why flirt openly with 'nice' guys and then go dissapear into a corner with someone who is allergic to keeping their shirt on and thinks the greatest praise you can level at something is that it is 'bitchin'? Oh right, the lack of shirt, answered my own question.

[Fenrir]

One could argue it's not so different with men (from a homosexual stand point at least). They flirt with the "nice guy" and then go off with the asshole whose only interested in casual sex. Why? Because they're built like a brick wall, can barely string a sentence together and are general utter morons.

[AlexanderDitto]

While at a party a girl I have been flirting with for a while cried on my shoulder about a friend of hers. Then led a guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear into the bathroom.

Guess who's not going anywhere anytime soon, this guy!

Sometimes the 'women love bastards' concept seems to be scarily accurate... I like to pretend it's not the case but the more I think about it the more it seems true.

Why? Why flirt openly with 'nice' guys and then go dissapear into a corner with someone who is allergic to keeping their shirt on and thinks the greatest praise you can level at something is that it is 'bitchin'? Oh right, the lack of shirt, answered my own question.

Are you sure she actually knows you're flirting with her, and not just being friendly?

NEWSFLASH PRO-TIP: The whole thing with "girls like douchebags not nice guys like me" isn't, in general true! What girls (and guys!) appreciate is people who are confident and know what they want and are able to vocalize it. So-called "douchebags" often have this in spades. The guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear likely made it abundantly clear he was interested in her (or in her underwear?) thus leading to bathroom shenanigans.

Unless they really just are an asshole. In which case, it's not a problem with women.("Women love bastards!") It's a problem with assholes. ("Assholes love other assholes!") In which case, why do you want to be with them in the first place? Move on and let them be an asshole to someone else.

Moral of the story: USE YOUR WORDS. If you do, and someone's an asshole, KICK THEM TO THE CURB.

[ex-Lurker]

Don't actually kick them to the curb though, that will earn you a severe case of sued .

[GaProgMan]

Are you sure she actually knows you're flirting with her, and not just being friendly?

NEWSFLASH PRO-TIP: The whole thing with "girls like douchebags not nice guys like me" isn't, in general true! What girls (and guys!) appreciate is people who are confident and know what they want and are able to vocalize it. So-called "douchebags" often have this in spades. The guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear likely made it abundantly clear he was interested in her (or in her underwear?) thus leading to bathroom shenanigans.

Unless they really just are an asshole. In which case, it's not a problem with women.("Women love bastards!") It's a problem with assholes. ("Assholes love other assholes!") In which case, why do you want to be with them in the first place? Move on and let them be an asshole to someone else.

Moral of the story: USE YOUR WORDS. If you do, and someone's an asshole, KICK THEM TO THE CURB.

Whilst I have no leg to stand on, here*. Ditto is right on the money. Let the asshole be an asshole, just not near you. I've been doing a very similar thing with friends recently... kicking assholes to the kerb, that is.

I've known too many useless people in my short life (I'm 26), so far, and they only get in your way and drag you down. The last thing you want is to be connected to one of them through sex or a relationship. They drag themselves down, and they drag others down with them.

* = I totally don't have a leg to stand on, because I seem to be crushing on this one girl quite a bit. I know that the "Life isn't complicated, we make it complicate" argument exists, but it just seems like the situation I find myself in is one of the few exceptions. I wont go into detail (in this topic), but let me just say this "Tell her that I'm crushing on her!? ARE YOU MAD!?"

[Dibria]

Are you sure she actually knows you're flirting with her, and not just being friendly?

NEWSFLASH PRO-TIP: The whole thing with "girls like douchebags not nice guys like me" isn't, in general true! What girls (and guys!) appreciate is people who are confident and know what they want and are able to vocalize it. So-called "douchebags" often have this in spades. The guy who made dirty jokes about her underwear likely made it abundantly clear he was interested in her (or in her underwear?) thus leading to bathroom shenanigans.

I was more commenting on how women, at parties tend to gravitate towards the jocks, this is not an asshole thing, it's a physical attraction thing, the same way you tend to find an attractive girl with a low cut dress has a lot of men around her at a party. This is not an ill reflection on the people that are drawn to them, attractive people draw people in regardless of how vacuous or assholey they are. Sarcasm may be harder to detect in writing but it was there.


Also on a side note, you may not have agreed with my view or that of Skamakazi but your format and wording comes across as condescending, try being a little more supportive when someone is obviously venting an irritation about something relevant to the topic.

[The Jester]

Why look for women in a place that isn't full of guys like you? I mean... it doesn't take a genius to draw a conclusion from a common pattern.

And why do "nice guys" get so offended when someone they were crushing on doesn't rewards their decent human courtesy with sex and a relationship? What, were you only treating that other human being like another human being with the expectation you'd get something for it? How incredibly selfish and assholish.

I've seen a lot of guys on this forum skirting dangerously close to this and I'm tired of it. You don't get a relationship as a reward. You get a relationship because you've formed a connection with someone and established that that's what you both want. You don't get one because you buy someone things, or do everything they say, or follow them around with puppydog eyes and compliments.

I know it's maybe harder to do than say, but just go meet people, make friends without expectations of them, and let connections form organically. Maybe it'll take time, but what good thing doesn't?


OT part of my post; I'm still not having any sex. But that's fine. It's not really a very important part of why I want to see my gf in person... I just want to be with her.

[Fenrir]

Ok, while I get that you were trying to show some kind of support and I do actually agree with parts of what you said - I have to say that your post, in my opinion, was more than a little unfair. You also came across (again, in my opinion) as somewhat condescending as a result of the wording of the post.

While it is indeed fair to say that it takes more than simply being a decent human being to make any kind of progress towards a relationship, I believe you missed the point of what both Skamakazi & Dibria were saying. Like it or not they did make some fairly valid points. Women do tend to gravitate more towards the jocks in such social situations and if you're the "nice guy" whose constantly in the "friends zone" in this situation than of course you're going to be left feeling cynical about such things.

I also think it's incredibly unfair to assume that simply because the nice guy feels discouraged or disheartened over their crush not "rewarding their decent human courtesy" as you put it, that it means they were only treating them that way in order to get something in return.

A lot of it comes down to confidence. What guy *wouldn't* have their confidence shaken when they have to watch the person they've been crushing on waltz off with "that jock" who can't keep it in his pants? If they feel like that's always going to be the end result then I wouldn't blame them for being more than a little disheartened.

I'd also like to point out that you're perspective on the matter is that of someone who is presently in a relationship. And you're right - a lot of what you said is easier said than done.

As Dibria said, "... try being a little more supportive when someone is obviously venting an irritation about something relevant to the topic."