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Postby Graham » 07 Feb 2014, 23:58

New video, new political party, new problems.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby rucdoc » 08 Feb 2014, 01:18

Yeah picking on the kid was a step to far.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby AdmiralMemo » 08 Feb 2014, 02:01

Heh... I can see something like this actually happening with minor third parties.

Also, I like the idea of the Progressive Conservative Party. :D
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Yaxley » 08 Feb 2014, 07:36

Ooh, please tell me I heard correctly and Cam's character was named Menteur.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Lord Chrusher » 08 Feb 2014, 08:04

The Progressive Conservatory party was a real federal Canadian political party. In 1942 the Conservatory party added 'Progressive' to their name to get John Bracken, premier of Manitoba, to lead the party. As one of Canada's two main parties (the others being the Liberals) they would go on form governments from 1957 to 1963 under the leadership of John Diefenbaker, from 1979 to 1980 under the leadership of Joe Clark and from 1984 to 1993 under Brian Mulroney. However the party imploded in 1993 and Kim Campbell led the party to the worse defeat in federal politics after Mulroney resigned (the Progressive Conservatives went from 156 seats to 2 in that election). After spending the next decade in the political wilderness, the Progressive Conservatives merged with the Canadian Alliance Reform Party (previously the Canadian Conservative Alliance Reform Party, no points for guessing why they changed the name, which had started as the Reform Party) to form the Conservative Party of Canada.

Between 1867 and 1873 the Conservative Party was known as the Liberal-Conservative Party.

The naming of right wing parties at the federal level in Canada is kind of messed up.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Master Gunner » 08 Feb 2014, 09:35

The Liberal-Conservative Party was formed out of a coalition of moderate Reformers and the Conservative party from what is now Ontario and the Parti Bleu from what is now Quebec. Technically this happened 13 years before Canada became a country, but we pay about as much attention to that period as Americans do to the Continental Congress. Left-wing Reformers, Clear Grits, and the Parti Rouge would form the Liberal Party of Canada.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Drecon » 08 Feb 2014, 12:52

Scary thing is... This video might actually not be very far from how these things actually happen...
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Omega Lairon » 08 Feb 2014, 13:33

It does make me wonder how much traction a party could gain on a "100% truth" platform. And I don't mean "truth" as a politician would use it, but actually completely legitimate.

"Did you take those bribes?"
"Yes I did."

Would be a refreshing but occasionally horrifying change from the mindless buzzwords and platitudes we get out of mainstream politics.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Clypheous » 08 Feb 2014, 17:27

The desire to find the icew all at the end of the planet makes me think that Game of Thrones must have actually been on to something with The Wall.
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Postby Master Gunner » 08 Feb 2014, 17:59

Interestingly, the original Flat Earth Society of Canada was actually a satirical group (though adhering closely to Poe's Law) founded in 1970 by professors at Saint Thomas University and the University of New Brunswick, along with local authors in Fredericton, NB. The grad student bar at UNB has a framed certificate of being early members of the group.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby WAYF » 08 Feb 2014, 19:55

Alex was easily the best part of this video. He just stole it. :D

And we have some pretty messed up political party names in Australia as well. The Democratic Labor Party is DEFINITELY NOT to be confused with the actual Labor Party, because they are almost completely the opposite of each other. We have the Democrats, then we have the Christian Democrats who are completely different. We have the Liberals, then we have the Liberal Democrats and I'm not even sure what that party thinks.
Also, apparently during the last election, all of the minor parties were funnelling votes towards Pauline Hanson, Australia's candidate for World's Worst Human Being.

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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby ritchards » 09 Feb 2014, 00:02

I'll say it: I got distracted by all the screens and lights reflecting off people's glasses, esp Graham and Cameron.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Graham » 09 Feb 2014, 00:50

ritchards wrote:I'll say it: I got distracted by all the screens and lights reflecting off people's glasses, esp Graham and Cameron.
Sorry to hear, didn't notice at the time. Just lights, no screens.
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Amake » 09 Feb 2014, 05:43

My stepdad liked to argue the Earth was flat to troll the family dinner table. I think it stopped when I learned high school trig and made him actually calculate the size of Earth based on the speed at which he could observe landmarks sink under the horizon on the ferry to Finland. He might have been both a master debater and committed to intellectual dishonesty, but he could not defend Flat Earth theory against a child without access to the Internet. It's that ridiculous.

But anyway, with that in mind perhaps you can understand why I have to ask: Why is your character, Graham, unhappy to see his beliefs embraced by an important politician? Shouldn't it be more important to him that people accept what he believes than that he be the one to convince them? Huh? Huh?
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Re: NEW VIDEO! — Flat Out

Postby Graham » 09 Feb 2014, 13:11

I think he's just upset that he had to pull back on his convictions, only to see someone else do better than him AND share his beliefs.
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Postby Amake » 09 Feb 2014, 18:01

Dangit, that sounds plausible.
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Re: Flat Out

Postby Merrymaker_Mortalis » 10 Feb 2014, 03:27

Wales does exist thank you very much ;)
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Re: Flat Out

Postby A-Z » 10 Feb 2014, 07:28

nice snappy dialogue and it was fun to see Cam go at it as a political consultan
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Postby KiteNeravar » 10 Feb 2014, 07:49

Did you write an entire article at the end there? or just the parts we can see?
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Re: Flat Out

Postby ejl389 » 10 Feb 2014, 11:40

say hello to the Progressive Conservative Party

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Postby Flewellyn » 10 Feb 2014, 17:39

As soon as Cameron's character said they were rebranding to "Progressive Conservative Party", I did two things:

First, I said "OOOOOOOOH! BURN!"

Second, I realized Kathleen had to be the writer. Since she's the one with the political facts of the week.

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Re: Flat Out

Postby empath » 10 Feb 2014, 17:44

Hey, the political party with the oxymoronic name STILL EXISTS.

But yeah, great vid - Alex stole the show a fair bit, Graham is a wonderful straight man as always, and that stinger? "534 years of mostly credible editorial practices...except for 1723, we are sorry about that" Image
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Re: Flat Out

Postby kade_zero » 10 Feb 2014, 17:53

You have my vote :)
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Re: Flat Out

Postby Master Gunner » 10 Feb 2014, 19:28

empath wrote:Hey, the political party with the oxymoronic name STILL EXISTS.


Yep, outside of Saskatchewan and BC, the PCs are still strong in provincial politics. Especially on this coast.
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Re: Flat Out

Postby empath » 11 Feb 2014, 18:12

Okay, it came to me at work:

Cam's "Mr. Menteur" character (and indeed, the whole video) embodies that 'Faustian' element to contemporary politics:

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