#YesAllWomen
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Nope. He was and so are your friends.
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Physically making someone go away from you is saying "get away from me".
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Consent is opt-in, not opt out. If you haven't explicitly given your consent, then that should be the end of it.
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I don't think so, the default should be to respect your personal space. Although if there was alcohol involved the guy might not be in the right state of mind, doesn't excuse the behaviour, but something to consider.
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You're definitely not at fault. You didn't give him permission at all. You walked away, you tried to keep yourself to yourself and he just presumed he could touch you.
Alcohol is no excuse ever. I have been blind drunk after having many different drinks and have NEVER disrespected a woman like that.
Alcohol is no excuse ever. I have been blind drunk after having many different drinks and have NEVER disrespected a woman like that.
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Alcohol is no excuse. I have always been respectful to everything even when blind drunk.
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edit Forgot to add: When I was being carried home by two of my mates. I hit one of them when ever he made inappropriate sounds when we were walking along the street.
If I can keep a level head even when trashed, why the hell can't anyone else? Alcohol isn't an excuse to be a twat towards someone else. Alcohol inhibits thinking. But it doesn't inhibit your nature.
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I've been frisky towards a person before, but he didn't reject what I was doing. I was fishing to find out if he was interested and there was no signs of "no", only yeses. I mean, I put my arm around him affectionately and he started sucking my thumb. -.^ Turned out he didn't feel the same after all. Ok, that's sidetracking.
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The only time I got horrifically drunk, I went down to the pub toilets because I felt ill. After being sick in the sink I realised I was best going to the toilet (I did clean the sick down the basin before moving). I realised if I lay my head on the side of the seat, I could be head heavy and still vomit into a safe place.
After a time, the owners of the pub wanted to kick me out, and I refused because I didn't want to risk throwing up on their floor
After a time, the owners of the pub wanted to kick me out, and I refused because I didn't want to risk throwing up on their floor
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edit Forgot to add: When I was being carried home by two of my mates. I hit one of them when ever he made inappropriate sounds when we were walking along the street.
If I can keep a level head even when trashed, why the hell can't anyone else? Alcohol isn't an excuse to be a twat towards someone else. Alcohol inhibits thinking. But it doesn't inhibit your nature.
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I've been frisky towards a person before, but he didn't reject what I was doing. I was fishing to find out if he was interested and there was no signs of "no", only yeses. I mean, I put my arm around him affectionately and he started sucking my thumb. -.^ Turned out he didn't feel the same after all. Ok, that's sidetracking.
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plummeting_sloth wrote:I just wanted to say a friend of mine forwarded me what you wrote for MFA, Met, and I didn't put it together that perhaps people with the same handle might in fact be the same. So now I've got to read it twice... with any luck I'll someone discover it a third time. Well done!
Hey, cool man, I'm glad it's getting around a little bit. On of my fellow mods linked as a "Comment of the Week" in the sidebar. Of course now I'm getting the backlash side of it, most of it not worth my time though.
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Maybe my third time will be some PUA idiot linking it and go "Can you believe this Beta male?"
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Merrymaker_Mortalis wrote:If I can keep a level head even when trashed, why the hell can't anyone else? Alcohol isn't an excuse to be a twat towards someone else. Alcohol inhibits thinking. But it doesn't inhibit your nature.
Whilst I broadly speaking agree with you on this one, I personally really dislike the 'I can do X so why can't you?' line of arguing. People vary widely, it's one of our greatest qualities, and mostly in ways we don't consider. And plus, it's always come across as a rather whiny arguing technique to me.
IDK, just an opinion.
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It doesn't matter how much I drink, a part of my mind stays stone cold sober, so while I can act out a bit, there is a clear line that I will not cross.
I've seen my fair share of people being drunk, and some do seem to find it more difficult to control themselves, but that's because that's how alcohol effects them. You get people who get happy when they drunk, some who get angry, and some who get sad. We don't all react the same, because we're not identical beings, even though we're human.
I agree with what has been mentioned before though, Duckay. The guy should of ASKED before touching you in the first place, or at least inquired as to if you were interested when you pushed him away, at the very LEAST. It seems like a pretty major hint that you don't want him near if you physically put space between the two of you.
I've seen my fair share of people being drunk, and some do seem to find it more difficult to control themselves, but that's because that's how alcohol effects them. You get people who get happy when they drunk, some who get angry, and some who get sad. We don't all react the same, because we're not identical beings, even though we're human.
I agree with what has been mentioned before though, Duckay. The guy should of ASKED before touching you in the first place, or at least inquired as to if you were interested when you pushed him away, at the very LEAST. It seems like a pretty major hint that you don't want him near if you physically put space between the two of you.
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I could understand a certain amount of "well, he was drinking, so we can cut him a little slack", but in my opinion, that doesn't forgive a) going for such an inappropriate touch as opposed to something more measured, b) not asking for / receiving consent, and c) trying it again after I pushed him away the first time. It mitigates it a bit, or would be reason to forgive a more mild version of events, but I still feel he was in the wrong. (Note, this is my perspective on events after I've calmed down and thought about it a bit.)
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Definitely, drinking is no excuse, just a factor to be accounted for. Sorry if it seemed I was defending the person harassing you Duckay.
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Agreed, it might explain it in part, but it doesn't excuse it, not by a long shot.
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