Feminism general thread

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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Matt » 29 Oct 2014, 19:36

The onion occasionally falls into Poe territory, but generally they're pretty good about hitting the "absurd to the point of actual parody" side of the line, in my experience.

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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby JackSlack » 29 Oct 2014, 22:13

I admit, I found the piece hilarious. That was dead on to my mind.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Metcarfre » 30 Oct 2014, 06:25

Anybody have a Canada-friendly link to the Sarkeesian interview and #GG bit on the Colbert Report?
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Matt » 30 Oct 2014, 14:00

http://www.themarysue.com/watch-anita-s ... t-segment/

The YouTube embed works on my phone.

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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby JustAName » 30 Oct 2014, 15:32

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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Elomin Sha » 30 Oct 2014, 16:15

It was okay.
Anita seemed to be playing it safe, maybe so vitriol thrown at her is lower than normal. Hopefully that does die down.
Has Anita done longer in depth interviews or are they normally short ones.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby phlip » 30 Oct 2014, 18:53

Elomin Sha wrote:Has Anita done longer in depth interviews or are they normally short ones.

The length was pretty normal for Colbert's little side-interviews like this... long enough for the guest to get their sound-bite points out there, not really long enough to go deep into anything. But it gets the point across. The length probably wasn't in any way in Sarkeesian's control... she just had to do what she could with the space she was given.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby CancerBottle » 31 Oct 2014, 02:30

I Can Tolerate Anything Except the Outgroup.

Long read (very long), but I think it offers some much-needed perspective.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Rikadyn » 31 Oct 2014, 04:31

CancerBottle wrote:I Can Tolerate Anything Except the Outgroup.

Long read (very long), but I think it offers some much-needed perspective.


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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Deedles » 31 Oct 2014, 06:56

I lost my concentration and couldn't keep reading after a while, because I felt like he was taking a long time to arrive to any sort of point, and while a point isn't always necessary I usually expect there to be something educational about the text. Which I didn't really find here since it felt mostly like his own conclusions and theories, based on stuff he'd read.

From what I read it was well written, but, yeah, I need something to hold my attention, since its span isn't the longest.

Edit: That said, I did find the little story about forgiveness at the start to be interesting.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby MotorWaffle » 31 Oct 2014, 08:02

I don't agree with everything Sarkeesian brings up in her videos, but at least I respected her for presenting herself in a professional, level headed way, and for presenting the information as discussion topics rather than preaching.

That respect ended today with the twitter sharing of the Hitler rant video where the subtitles portrayed him as a GamerGate supporter having a tantrum. I don't care what you're stance is, you don't participate in a shit-flinging contest and come out smelling any nicer than the other guy.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Deedles » 31 Oct 2014, 08:09

We're in complete agreement on that one, Motor.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Metcarfre » 31 Oct 2014, 08:10

Now, I haven't seen that version of the video, but everyone knows that that thing has been re-edited with new subtitles many, many times and is consistently meant as satire, right?
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby AdmiralMemo » 31 Oct 2014, 08:28

I've found that "everyone knows" everything until that's proven wrong.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Metcarfre » 31 Oct 2014, 08:30

I... what?
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby MetricFurlong » 31 Oct 2014, 08:35

Metcarfre wrote:Now, I haven't seen that version of the video, but everyone knows that that thing has been re-edited with new subtitles many, many times and is consistently meant as satire, right?

Yeah 'Downfall Hitler' has been around for years, and has been made about a whole variety of things from pizza delivery times to ipad releases.

Still, every time an internet meme's posted is going to be someone's first time seeing it, I suppose.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby AdmiralMemo » 31 Oct 2014, 08:39

Just trying to say that common knowledge isn't as common as one would believe. "Everyone knows" about the Hitler clip... except those who don't. "Everyone knows" about what happens when you mix Diet Coke and Mentos... except those who don't.

I think we should give up on trying to say what "everyone" knows.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Metcarfre » 31 Oct 2014, 08:45

Yes... hence my initial comment.
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Re: Feminism general thread

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I... what?
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Re: Feminism general thread

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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Deedles » 31 Oct 2014, 09:52

Yes, I've known about that clip and have seen several versions of it before. The difference is that most of the other versions I've seen were meant to be funny and were usually on subjects that weren't loaded to hell and back.

I just find this version to be bad.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Elomin Sha » 31 Oct 2014, 11:00

I really need to watch Downfall. It's one of those WW2 films I haven't got round to, another would be Where Eagles Dare.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby empath » 31 Oct 2014, 13:17

Metcarfre wrote:Now, I haven't seen that version of the video, but everyone knows that that thing has been re-edited with new subtitles many, many times and is consistently meant as satire, right?


No.

So yeah, I'm with Memo on this one.
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Metcarfre » 31 Oct 2014, 13:22

OK, you people have heard of the internet, right?
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Re: Feminism general thread

Postby Duckay » 31 Oct 2014, 13:28

It seems like there you went from incredulous to rude, Metcarfre. Want to dial it back?

For those who didn't know the meme, perhaps this can provide some context.

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